drinking cup bowl antique ?

Chlodio

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Aug 2016
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Strange that there's a lid on a drinking cup. Is the bottom scorched as if used for cooking? I note the size is right for a drinking cup and too small for a cook pot.

Can you tell us anything about where it was found, how old it is, etc?
 
Apr 2019
5
germany
It was probably only used for drinking.
Material is copper. The lower rent is rounded.
I suspect that it is around 1600 century. You can clearly see age traces
 

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Edratman

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Feb 2009
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I do not like the round bottom for a cup.

But more importantly, I do not like the absence of any residual manufacturing marks, such as hammer marks or the circular rings resulting from spinning. Of course the marks could have been polished off, but the vessel is too plain and nondescript to warrant such a finishing operation.

If pressed I would think this is of more modern origins, say the last 100 years.
 
Apr 2019
5
germany
Hello
it is very strong patina on the cup. Presumably it was wine-making!?. Can it be a small urn? It's definitely old.
At the bottom and lid center is a small dot exactly in the middle. Probably to center. The piece is from Würzburg, Germany.
 

Edratman

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Feb 2009
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Hello
it is very strong patina on the cup. Presumably it was wine-making!?. Can it be a small urn? It's definitely old.
At the bottom and lid center is a small dot exactly in the middle. Probably to center. The piece is from Würzburg, Germany.
The small dots are a strong indication that the cup was spun on a lathe. That would date the vessel to post industrial revolution.

Metal spinning, also known as spin forming or spinning or metal turning most commonly, is a metalworking process by which a disc or tube of metal is rotated at high speed and formed into an axially symmetric part.[1] Spinning can be performed by hand or by a CNC lathe.
Metal spinning does not involve removal of material, as in conventional wood or metal turning, but forming (moulding) of sheet material over an existing shape.
Metal spinning ranges from an artisan's specialty to the most advantageous way to form round metal parts for commercial applications. Artisans use the process to produce architectural detail, specialty lighting, decorative household goods and urns.

Metal spinning - Wikipedia
 
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Dan Howard

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Aug 2014
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It's not old. It was spun on a lathe in the last couple of centuries. The patina tells you nothing. Copper can develop a patina like that in only a few years. If you put wine in it and don't wash it out properly, a patina like that can develop within days.
 
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