Druze

Naima

Ad Honorem
Jun 2014
2,321
Venice
#1
I was watching a documentary on the genetic origin of Jesus and they took from the Sacred Syndon some genetic material and assumedit could relate to Druze people . In the Doc they affirm the Druze people predate Christianity , but on Wikipedia it says theyare s scysmatic branch of Islam ... What's the truth? And obviously Jesus coulnd not be a Druze if Its an Islamic branch.
 

Tsar

Ad Honorem
Apr 2015
2,010
Serbia
#4
God knows what you watched. The Druzes (al-Duruz). The faith originated in the time of Fatimid caliph in Egypt, al-Hakim (996-1021). An Ismaili Muslim, but also an eccentric ruler, he seems to have wished to be worshiped as practically a divine figure, and the first person to be notable follower of this teaching was al-Darazi (who was a non-Arab): therefore the whole movement came to be known as al-Daraziyya or al-Durziyya. Being too radical, he was executed in 1018 and another leader of the cult arose: Hamza bin Ali, an Iranian who held more orthodox Ismaili views. In 1021 both al-Hakim and Hamza disappeared. Before he disappeared, Hamza left the leadership in Egypt to Baha al-Din al-Samuqi ("al-Muqtana"). Al-Muqtana's work provided basis for Druze orthodoxy.

The cult of al-Hakim gradually ceased in Egypt, but it stayed alive in Syria thanks to a wave of peasant movements. They took control of several mountainous regions in Syria, allegedly destroying mosques and establishing "new system of law" (more likely, they were simply a wave of movements for free peasantry). The Druzes became a closed commmunity, frowning upon intermarriage and forbidding revealing their teachings as well as apostasy.

It is extremely important to know that the Druzes don't refer to themselves as Druzes; they use the term Muwahhidun (the Unitarians).
 

Tulius

Ad Honorem
May 2016
4,596
Portugal
#7
Under the video states “New genetic study about the DNA in "Shroud of Turin" has came to a shocking conclusion that Jesus Christ had Druze ancestry.”

Believing in the quoted text under the YouTube video, I will say that the video proves that the "Shroud of Turin" wrapped the dead body of a Druze, not that Jesus was a Druze.
 
May 2016
811
Vatican occupied America
#8
The Druze claim is very weak. It's based on dust taken from the Shroud having H 33 MT-DNA (maternal DNA). There were 14 different MT haplogroups amongst the shroud dust. The H 33 is common amongst the Druze women living in: Northern Israel; Lebanon, Jordan and Syria, so if one wants to regard the Turin Shroud as genuine and the dust with Druze H 33 on it as left by Jesus on can reasonably believe it, though it's such weak evidence why would one want to. When one is dealing with a sample with no know providence one is no longer being scientific (AKA dealing with something that is both likely and demonstrable to anyone examining the claim).

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep14484

The Druze: A Population Genetic Refugium of the Near East
 

Naima

Ad Honorem
Jun 2014
2,321
Venice
#9
In the documentary they make pass the Druze like an ethnic group dpredating Islam and Christianity , onthe other end what I read of Druze is that they are a religious closed group branch of the Islamic movements.
So is the Documentary referring to something else?
The same interviewed Druze claim that their religion doesn't stem from Islam but dates back of 3000 years and only with the Islamic persecutions started to close themselves to further converts making so their religion a matter of ethnic pertinence.
 

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