Europe facing the danger of Internet censorship

Naomasa298

Forum Staff
Apr 2010
31,585
T'Republic of Yorkshire
#81
The rising superpower is officially a Communist one. Communism (and socialism) is also becoming more popular rise among millennials (indeed, all political extremism is!).
Officially perhaps. In practise, it is not.

Regardless - should communism be banned in the UK? Outlawed and punished with prison for example…
It is not an ideology that will cause any harm in the modern world, as things stand now.

Who decides the sects of Islam to ban? Shall we perhaps ask a Shia what to ban and leave it at that or would you like to act as moderator between a Sunni and Shia?!
Who decides to ban preachers like Chaudhury?

Choudhary should be banned from inflaming hatred and calling for violence, not for is ideology or religious affiliation per se. Still, as his beliefs all stem from Islam, and that alone, there is a case that Islam should be banned under the apparent need for censorship, no?
And that is where you need a suitably qualified body to decide. We appoint bodies to judge trials based on evidence. I fail to see why the same cannot be done in this case.
 
Mar 2014
1,797
Lithuania
#82
If someone wants to write their representatives about article 13, here is wonderful site. Easy to find addresses and voting history on the subject.

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P.S. Looked up how EP from my country voted on the subject and this will be very important during next election for me.
 
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GogLais

Ad Honorem
Sep 2013
4,881
Wirral
#83
If someone wants to write their representatives about article 13, here is wonderful site. Easy to find addresses and voting history on the subject.

Home

P.S. Looked up how EP from my country voted on the subject and this will be very important during next election for me.
Ok, so it is to do with copyright and not censorship then.
 

AlpinLuke

Ad Honoris
Oct 2011
24,971
Lago Maggiore, Italy
#85
Ok, so it is to do with copyright and not censorship then.
The mention of censorship in this context [as I said] can sound a bit biased, just to generate a negative reaction and encourage popular action. To be fair, the filters used by the sites could [potentially] become tools of not controlled censorship. Imagine if at Wiki [and I'm a Wiki author as well] the administrators get crazy and decide to block all the contributes with a Socialist orientation. The Wiki author would simply see a pop up saying "this content infringes copyrights, you cannot upload it". How could a Wiki author check?

But this would be totally insane: already the application of article 13 in a correct way will mean long "discussions" among Wiki authors and Wiki teams. It will be amusing.
 
Nov 2018
124
Denmark
#86
The mention of censorship in this context [as I said] can sound a bit biased, just to generate a negative reaction and encourage popular action. To be fair, the filters used by the sites could [potentially] become tools of not controlled censorship. Imagine if at Wiki [and I'm a Wiki author as well] the administrators get crazy and decide to block all the contributes with a Socialist orientation. The Wiki author would simply see a pop up saying "this content infringes copyrights, you cannot upload it". How could a Wiki author check?

But this would be totally insane: already the application of article 13 in a correct way will mean long "discussions" among Wiki authors and Wiki teams. It will be amusing.
Wikipedia and other open source platforms, e.g. Github will not be covered by Article 13.
 

AlpinLuke

Ad Honoris
Oct 2011
24,971
Lago Maggiore, Italy
#88
Mar 2014
1,797
Lithuania
#89
Yes, you're right, there is an explicit exclusion [just reading the details]. So that my example has to be moved to other platforms.

I imagine that just the opposition of Wiki played a role : How the EU copyright proposal will hurt the web and Wikipedia – Wikimedia Blog
Actually Wiki and GitHub are only exceptions as I understand. What about Historum? I live in Europe, what happens when I post something taken from some source? Or God forbid, what happens when I post hyperlink to some source, who is going to pay to the owners?
 
Nov 2018
124
Denmark
#90
Actually Wiki and GitHub are only exceptions as I understand. What about Historum? I live in Europe, what happens when I post something taken from some source? Or God forbid, what happens when I post hyperlink to some source, who is going to pay to the owners?
As I understand it, a place like Historum will be excluded because it is too "insignificant"