European Civilization Headed for Extinction?

Nov 2009
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/07/european-commission-offers-6000-migrant-180724185101617.html


European Commission offers 6,000 euros to take in a migrant
Italy balks at commission's offer saying it doesn't want 'charity' to accept migrants arriving from the Mediterranean.


Italy's Interior Minister Matteo Salvini denounced the offer as far too little.

"We aren't asking for charity handouts. Every asylum seeker costs the Italian taxpayer between 40,000 and 50,000 euros ($46,700 and $58,400). Brussels, they can keep their charity for themselves," Salvini told reporters.
It's funny to see European leaders actually finding a non-compliant Italian governments, they had been so used to nauseatingly submissive Italian politicians that they are astonished to find someone who actually rebukes them.
The time when we were the cesspool of Europe is over and the incapacity of "our" leaders has never been so blatantly obvious.
 
Oct 2013
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It's funny to see European leaders actually finding a non-compliant Italian governments, they had been so used to nauseatingly submissive Italian politicians that they are astonished to find someone who actually rebukes them.
The time when we were the cesspool of Europe is over and the incapacity of "our" leaders has never been so blatantly obvious.
It isn't funny at all, Xander.

It's about the solidarity that we all "Europeans" cherish so much that we forget about it when we have to actually put it into facts.
 
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royal744

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Jul 2013
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Sharia law is complicated, but secular nations have little to worry about it since by nature, religious laws are technically impossible to implement. More importantly, many Muslims coming into Europe are from places like Syria, Turkey, Iraq, nations where, at least de jure are not Sharia nations. Sharia law is not a factor. They're also fleeing regimes that have instigated especially conservative and rigid practices of Sharia law.



Because a significant reason for why they're leaving is due to European powers messing in the Near East. Literally most of the nations in the Middle East were drawn up by France and the UK after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, and the Cold War between the USSR and NATO hasn't done wonders for the region, over the region, either.



Churchill was a good politician, but considering his less-than-stellar views on Indians, Arabs, and Pakistanis, he really shouldn't be taken as an example on how to handle this, especially since many of these Muslim migrants are from nations that used to be part of the British Empire that Churchill himself tried to keep together.



At this point Muslims make about 10% of the population if you're being generous. To provide context, about 10% of the human race is statistically homosexual. There are about as many Muslims in Sweden as there are gay people, and this idea that more than a fourth of Sweden will be Muslim is entirely based on demographic trends continuing unabated for the next 30 years. That's a lot of time for a lot of changes.



You can't expect people who are either refugees, migrants, visa holders, etc to just suddenly acclimate. Integration and assimilation takes time.
Good post.
 

tomar

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Jan 2011
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How is a post that contradicts itself and reality a good post ?

Sharia law is complicated, but secular nations have little to worry about it since by nature, religious laws are technically impossible to implement. More importantly, many Muslims coming into Europe are from places like Syria, Turkey, Iraq, nations where, at least de jure are not Sharia nations. Sharia law is not a factor. They're also fleeing regimes that have instigated especially conservative and rigid practices of Sharia law.

So these countries are not "Sharia nations" but at the same time people are fleeing those same regimes because they have "instigated conservative and rigid practice" of Sharia ????

This is entirely silly..... plus the most conservative practice of Sharia is in Saudi and Iran, and there is no major flight from there (in other words people are not fleeing from Sharia as claimed).... As for those who are fleeing what exactly is the evidence that they are fleeing from Sharia law ? and if they were, why do they demand it in their new place of residence ?

And if religious laws are "technically impossible to implement" how is it that they are actually implemented in many countries ????

In other words this post is the usual whitewash and denial of reality that we get as soon as there is any criticism of Shariah or islamists.
 
Nov 2009
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Outer world
Sharia law is complicated, but secular nations have little to worry about it since by nature, religious laws are technically impossible to implement. More importantly, many Muslims coming into Europe are from places like Syria, Turkey, Iraq, nations where, at least de jure are not Sharia nations. Sharia law is not a factor. They're also fleeing regimes that have instigated especially conservative and rigid practices of Sharia law.



Because a significant reason for why they're leaving is due to European powers messing in the Near East. Literally most of the nations in the Middle East were drawn up by France and the UK after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, and the Cold War between the USSR and NATO hasn't done wonders for the region, over the region, either.



Churchill was a good politician, but considering his less-than-stellar views on Indians, Arabs, and Pakistanis, he really shouldn't be taken as an example on how to handle this, especially since many of these Muslim migrants are from nations that used to be part of the British Empire that Churchill himself tried to keep together.



At this point Muslims make about 10% of the population if you're being generous. To provide context, about 10% of the human race is statistically homosexual. There are about as many Muslims in Sweden as there are gay people, and this idea that more than a fourth of Sweden will be Muslim is entirely based on demographic trends continuing unabated for the next 30 years. That's a lot of time for a lot of changes.



You can't expect people who are either refugees, migrants, visa holders, etc to just suddenly acclimate. Integration and assimilation takes time.
It's not "European powers" it is France and the UK, let's remember that, especially in light of the military activism that these two countries have showed as of lately.
Especially that abomination of foreign policy that France has been pursuing in the last years.
 
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Valens

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Feb 2014
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It's not "European powers" it is France and the UK, let's remember that, especially in light of the military activism that these two countries have showed as of lately.
Especially that abomination of foreign policy that France has been pursuing in the last years.
It's only a simulation of a foreign policy, ie, showing initiative, while France, in fact, has no sovereign foreign policy since De Gaulle.
 

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