European future-Ethnography

Nov 2009
3,760
Queensland, Australia
#1
I have gathered some ethnographic data for a few European countries.
Just looking at this data, I wounder what is the ethnographic future of Europe.
I would appreciate your comments.

Italy:
Population growth rate: -0.047% (2009 est.)
Birth rate: 8.18 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Death rate: 10.72 deaths/1,000 population (July 2009 est.)
Net migration rate: 2.06 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2009 est.)

Greece
Population growth rate: 0.127% (2009 est.)
Birth rate: 9.45 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Death rate: 10.51 deaths/1,000 population (July 2009 est.)
Net migration rate: 2.33 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2009 est.)

Portugal
Population growth rate: 0.275% (2009 est.)
Birth rate: 10.29 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Death rate: 10.68 deaths/1,000 population (July 2009 est.)
Net migration rate: 3.14 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2009 est.)

Spain
Population growth rate: 0.072% (2009 est.)
Birth rate: 9.72 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Death rate: 9.99 deaths/1,000 population (July 2009 est.)
Net migration rate: 0.99 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2009 est.)


France
Population growth rate: 0.549% (2009 est.)
Birth rate: 12.57 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Death rate: 8.56 deaths/1,000 population (July 2009 est.)
Net migration rate: 1.48 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2009 est.)

UK
Population growth rate: 0.279% (2009 est.)
Birth rate: 10.65 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Death rate: 10.02 deaths/1,000 population (July 2009 est.)
Net migration rate: 2.16 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2009 est.)

Germany
Population growth rate: -0.053% (2009 est.)
Birth rate: 8.18 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Death rate: 10.9 deaths/1,000 population (July 2009 est.)
Net migration rate: 2.19 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2009 est.)

Sweden
Population growth rate: 0.158% (2009 est.)
Birth rate: 10.13 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Death rate: 10.21 deaths/1,000 population (July 2009 est.)
Net migration rate: 1.66 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2009 est.)


Poland
Population growth rate: -0.047% (2009 est.)
Birth rate: 10.04 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Death rate: 10.05 deaths/1,000 population (July 2009 est.)
Net migration rate: -0.47 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2009 est.)

Czech Republic
Population growth rate: -0.094% (2009 est.)
Birth rate: 8.83 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Death rate: 10.74 deaths/1,000 population (July 2009 est.)
Net migration rate: 0.97 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2009 est.)

Russia
Population growth rate: -0.467% (2009 est.)
Birth rate: 11.1 births/1,000 population (2009 est.)
Death rate: 16.06 deaths/1,000 population (July 2009 est.)
Net migration rate: 0.28 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2009 est.)
 
#3
World Balkanization, quite likely. Interestingly, people are not moving into the nations that provide the most immigrants, due to circumstances.

Thus the process is not universal, but always from bad to better.
 
Sep 2006
1,453
Korea (but I'm American!)
#4
The Future is the same as all northern hemisphere countries. Their success has dropped their birthrates and the populations are voluntarily sending themselves into history. While the people's of the less developed southern hemisphere are moving in. The northern countries that integrate their new immigrant populations will be the best off. Japan and South Korea will end up with a lot of South East Asians, The US will end up with a lot of latinos and Europe with a lot of Middle Easterners, South Asians and Africans. Russia with Central Asians.
 
Dec 2009
19,933
#5
The Future is the same as all northern hemisphere countries. Their success has dropped their birthrates and the populations are voluntarily sending themselves into history. While the people's of the less developed southern hemisphere are moving in. The northern countries that integrate their new immigrant populations will be the best off. Japan and South Korea will end up with a lot of South East Asians, The US will end up with a lot of latinos and Europe with a lot of Middle Easterners, South Asians and Africans. Russia with Central Asians.
That sounds great for soccer.
 
Dec 2009
19,933
#8
I have gathered some ethnographic data for a few European countries.
Just looking at this data, I wounder what is the ethnographic future of Europe.
I would appreciate your comments.
OK, let us get serious.
Actually, the most relevant single demographic variable is presumably still absent here: the total fertility ratio.

Here come the CIA figures for the the expected number of children born per woman in her child-bearing years for 2000 & 2008 from those same countries:

Italy: 1.18/1.30

Greece: 1.33/1.36

Portugal: 1.47/1.49

Spain: 1.15/1.30

France: -/1.98

UK: 1.63/1.66

Germany: 1.38/1.41

Sweden: 1.53/1.67

Poland: 1.38/1.27

Czech Republic: 1.18/1.23

Russia : 1.25/1.40

Please enjoy them; I will try to comment them a little later.
 
Sep 2006
1,453
Korea (but I'm American!)
#9
We're being told we need to have more people or our markets will crumble. Along with it our wealth....
Why do pure capitalists ignore the limitedness of recources?
Well, If you want to keep the country running, you can't have 80% of the population over the age of 65. Who's gonna do all the work? Who's going to pay for the social benefits? You don't need to have more births, you can just take in immigrants. Like the US which is only about 13% English ancestry now.
 
Sep 2006
1,453
Korea (but I'm American!)
#10
OK, let us get serious.
Actually, the most relevant single demographic variable is presumably still absent here: the total fertility ratio.

Here come the CIA figures for the the expected number of children born per woman in her child-bearing years for 2000 & 2008 from those same countries:

Italy: 1.18/1.30

Greece: 1.33/1.36

Portugal: 1.47/1.49

Spain: 1.15/1.30

France: -/1.98

UK: 1.63/1.66

Germany: 1.38/1.41

Sweden: 1.53/1.67

Poland: 1.38/1.27

Czech Republic: 1.18/1.23

Russia : 1.25/1.40

Please enjoy them; I will try to comment them a little later.
A little increase, but who is giving birth in those countries? Is it the ethnic French and Italians or is it the newly immigrated women?
 

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