Examples of "brotherly nations"?

Kotromanic

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Maybe the Germans had the Eastern part of New Guinea, that didn't join with Indonesia. Is the Western half of New Guinea part of Indonesia, or perhaps that isn't even correct?
 

Futurist

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Maybe the Germans had the Eastern part of New Guinea, that didn't join with Indonesia. Is the Western half of New Guinea part of Indonesia, or perhaps that isn't even correct?
West Papua did join Indonesia (by force) but East Papua never actually did.
 
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Maybe the Germans had the Eastern part of New Guinea, that didn't join with Indonesia. Is the Western half of New Guinea part of Indonesia, or perhaps that isn't even correct?
Just to clear this up, the map of colonial New Guinea looked like this:

New_Guinea_1884-1919_w_contested_boundary.png

The part that is today in Indonesia was part of the Dutch East Indies. The British annexed the German part after WWI but the British flag on the map is somewhat misleading as it was actually administered as part of Australia.
 

Futurist

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all the slav countries
I'd actually split them into three separate groups: The Eastern Slavs, the Western Slavs, and the Southern Slavs:



The Romance nations could belong in another category (especially if Romania is excluded due to its Communist and Ottoman past) while the Germanic countries could form another category and the Scandinavian countries minus Finland yet another category.
 

Futurist

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Just to clear this up, the map of colonial New Guinea looked like this:

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The part that is today in Indonesia was part of the Dutch East Indies. The British annexed the German part after WWI but the British flag on the map is somewhat misleading as it was actually administered as part of Australia.
Australia was still a British colony back then, no?
 
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I'd actually split them into three separate groups: The Eastern Slavs, the Western Slavs, and the Southern Slavs:



The Romance nations could belong in another category (especially if Romania is excluded due to its Communist and Ottoman past) while the Germanic countries could form another category and the Scandinavian countries minus Finland yet another category.
If this division is language based, yes, Romania and Hungary may be a dividing line. But if we divide on the basis of genetics, there can be no hole between the Eastern, Western and Southern Slavs. Romania, Moldova and Hungary are more than half genetically Slavic
 
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Kotromanic

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Just to clear this up, the map of colonial New Guinea looked like this:

View attachment 23390

The part that is today in Indonesia was part of the Dutch East Indies. The British annexed the German part after WWI but the British flag on the map is somewhat misleading as it was actually administered as part of Australia.
Wow, nice find there.

Futurist of course had the main question correct, however the map leads to amusing mental images of "African Queen" style German colonists among the Papuans.
 
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Kotromanic

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If this division is language based, yes, Romania and Hungary may be a dividing line. But if we divide on the basis of genetics, there can be no hole between the Eastern, Western and Southern Slavs. Romania, Moldova and Hungary are more than half genetically Slavic
Please be careful of genetic arguments. Language of course is a very poor indicator of deep ethnic influence. I have in-laws who come from generations of German speaking families that have had commercial ancestry tests indicating their long-term ethnicity is Celtic.
 
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