Female police officer joins Army Infantry, claims it will be “similar” to her job

Oct 2015
1,196
California
Due to the possible controversial nature of the subject, if this topic doesn't belong here then by all means move it to the appropriate place. However since this is concerning the military and its historic significance I thought I would post it here.


Is this woman Naive perhaps? She has no clue what's in store for her, assuming of course the Army doesn't lower its standards:



A Louisiana woman is seeking to make history, enlisting to be the first female infantryman in the United States Army.

25-year-old Tammy Barnett raised her right hand in Shreveport, Louisiana, opting to join the US Army Infantry, a deviation from her original plans when she found out she could be first......



Female police officer joins Army Infantry, claims it will be "similar? to her job
 
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Lucius

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Jan 2007
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Nebraska
Police have to use the radio a lot.

Infantry has to do that a lot for situation reports, fire missions, etc.
 

Belgarion

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Jul 2011
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Australia
This will end badly - "25-year-old Tammy Barnett raised her right hand in Shreveport, Louisiana, opting to join the US Army Infantry, a deviation from her original plans when she found out she could be first." If this woman has suddenly decided to join the Infantry rather than the Military Police simply to be the first woman in the role then she is not really interested in the job but in proving some sort of feminist point. If and when she completes the training will she wish to continue in the role or then look for a change, having got her feminist tick in the box?
 

Edric Streona

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Feb 2016
4,544
Japan
She wants to do the course let her do the course. If she passes good on her.
I'd feel bad for the unit that gets her.

She, even if proven to be competent in action, will still be a liability or hindrance to her unit.
Some women do serve in frontline roles, but are not expected to be at the forefront. They are expected to hang back in cover, provide supporting fire or keep down while trained combat troops do their job. Men in these roles are expected to do the same. If she is a combat Infantryman she will be at the sharp end which also means the following...


If she is hit, the reaction of her squad will not be the same. Men would take extra risks to help them needlessly, they maybe more inclined to stay with her or be distracted when there are more pressing concerns.

If she is captured by the enemy then she is at added risks of sexual assault and rape. More stress on her, her mates and family at home during capture. Also her presence might even effect the decision making process of some squads in surrender situations meaning a surrender ends up as a massacre.

Then you have the fact that she might, if straight, fall into a relationship with 1 soldier which might result in bad decisions on the battlefield. Or 2 soldiers might fall out, even fight over her... bad for morale.

Of course, in national emergencies putting them on the front line might be needed, but I don't think we should be doing it out of a misguided sense of equality.
 

Pendennis

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Mar 2013
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Kirkcaldy, Scotland
Right now all the ghosts of Soviet women who served and fought as frontline soldiers at Staingrad and elsewhere will be laughing at the naivety of anyone thinking this woman in Louisiaa is doing anything remotely new or revolutionary.
Top Soviet female sniper in the Crimea in 1942 Mila Mikhailovna Pavliichcenko who shot 300 German solidiers with her trusty 1891-1930 sniper's rifle spirit will be saying to this American woman ''What took you so long to catch up with your Soviet sisters like me.?''
Mila's exploits as a frontline sniper earned her an invitation from Eleanor Roosevelt to the USA where she captivated the crowds in Chicago.
She was lionised in England on a visit there in 1943 too. And there were several hundred Soviet female snipers at the front too between 1941-45 so this woman in Louiisiana is a johnny come lately to the party of female frontline soldiers.
 
Oct 2015
1,196
California
Infantry soldiers typically carry around 80 lbs worth of gear or more. Imagine doing that on a 12 mile foot march. Training becomes even more rigorous for Army Rangers.

The politicians just completely ignored an Army study that says women are injured more often than men during combat training:

Female soldiers suffered double the rate of injuries compared with male colleagues in Army combat training, including jobs in field artillery and repairing the Bradley Fighting Vehicle.

The startling statistics come from Army studies obtained by the Center for Military Readiness (CMR), a research group that opposes what the Obama administration is expected to do by year’s end: put women in the direct land combat in infantry, armor, artillery and special operations units.


Source: Army stats show that women are injured twice as often as men in combat training - Washington Times
 
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Aug 2014
1,170
Portugal
She wants to do the course let her do the course. If she passes good on her.
I'd feel bad for the unit that gets her.

She, even if proven to be competent in action, will still be a liability or hindrance to her unit.
Some women do serve in frontline roles, but are not expected to be at the forefront. They are expected to hang back in cover, provide supporting fire or keep down while trained combat troops do their job. Men in these roles are expected to do the same. If she is a combat Infantryman she will be at the sharp end which also means the following...


If she is hit, the reaction of her squad will not be the same. Men would take extra risks to help them needlessly, they maybe more inclined to stay with her or be distracted when there are more pressing concerns.
This is not the first time in human history women served with men in the forefront. There are examples in every continent.



If she is captured by the enemy then she is at added risks of sexual assault and rape. More stress on her, her mates and family at home during capture. Also her presence might even effect the decision making process of some squads in surrender situations meaning a surrender ends up as a massacre.
I think any capture is very stresfull with or without sexual assault (assuming only women are sexual assalted when captured in war)...
Again, there are many exemples of victorius forces with women in the forefront.

And troops do surrender even when the civlian women (and children) they are protecting are also emprisioned by the enemy.


Then you have the fact that she might, if straight, fall into a relationship with 1 soldier which might result in bad decisions on the battlefield. Or 2 soldiers might fall out, even fight over her... bad for morale.
The same way two gay soldiers might fall into a relationship, etc. Yet I think there the fraternization policy preventing love relationships between soldiers in the same units, different ranks, etc.

If two men fight over a woman, it is their responsibility.