Fighting the communism in Greece

May 2017
1,155
France
The thread,the thread,the thread.....History is a channel,not a pub spot,and your interrogation is not the constitution of the ONU.
 
May 2017
1,155
France
If you have entered in the war since 1914,France and UK would have sent to you a lot of good military commisions with our best specialists;you would have received in 1915 big quantities of excellent weapons,and finally we would have together defeated more rapidly the monstruous Wilhelm II,the shame of Europe,that your king considered as a "parent".We would have rejected the Turks on the other side,and definitively liberated Constantinople,the old "Byzance",occupied since 1453.It would have changed the story of Europe.
 
Nov 2014
976
USA
It was a lot more complicated than that!
Britain, France and Italy which were occupying parts of Asia Minor at the time after WWI, had their own interests in the area especially in the Middle East, and although they were our allies France (your country) and Italy started supporting Turkey for their own interests;
Britain our best ally kept a neutral position, and Greece all of a sudden was on its own.
Not mentioning also the attitude of the Soviet Union which also supported Turkey for their reasons.

It wasn't the fault of any Greek king.
The subject however of this thread that we are discussing is different.
 
Aug 2019
11
Ashrakhan
In Greece the fight of Britain was not only against axis powers but also fight against totalitarian communism was necessary to liberate the country.
I felt this correction was necessary because you made it sound like the people of Greece were fanatically anti-communists which was generally not the case. This is just one more case of Britain's involvement causing more bloodshed than necessary.
 
Mar 2018
65
Greece
The greek dynasty is the worse of Europe.Do you know the number of CW s soldiers and french + colonial empire KIA in this theater from 1915 to 1944 ? As the Bourbon of Spain are responsive-after the defeats of Marocco-of the civil war (1936-1939) the kings of Greece are responsive-after the desastrous wars against Turky (1919-1922) and the Axis (1940-1944)-of the civil war (1944-1949) and of a very late entrance in the democracy,which is very surprising,for the land of the filosofy.
with monarchy we went through 5 wars, one civil war, and a refugee crisis that no other country had ever faced so far and we still had a healthy state and economy that everybody respected.

after monarchy, with no single war we have the worst economy and state in Europe.

sorry but it's not the kings, it's us
 
Nov 2014
976
USA
with monarchy we went through 5 wars, one civil war, and a refugee crisis that no other country had ever faced so far and we still had a healthy state and economy that everybody respected.

after monarchy, with no single war we have the worst economy and state in Europe.

sorry but it's not the kings, it's us
Certainly it was not the kings.

If it was the fault of the people,..... it was the fact that they believed corrupt politicians who were opportunists and demagogues who cared for their owned self interest, that brought finally the country to bankruptcy.

PS: Again this is not the subject of this thread.
The subject is, Greece trying to avoid falling under communism during the '40s.
 
May 2017
1,155
France
The political men you indicate are perhaps no perfect,but in a democracy,everybody has the informations and you can decide to put the leaders at the door,like bad pupils;in a dictatorship,you know nothing,except propaganda,and you discover everything thirty years after.
 
Nov 2014
976
USA
The political men you indicate are perhaps no perfect,.
Like everybody else.

but in a democracy,everybody has the informations .
Not necessarily!

and you can decide to put the leaders at the door,like bad pupils;.
If you knew everything from before;
but if you didn't, you got fooled and you end up making a mistake for things that had not been revealed intentionally before, and it is too late to correct!

in a dictatorship,you know nothing,except propaganda,and you discover everything thirty years after.
There are other ways to get the truth besides the official propaganda in a dictatorship, which is also true for and/or during a democracy, especially in today's world.

It doesn't take thirty years later to find the truth, you can find it even during its life time!


PS: I guess Stalin is a good example when things were found out after his death.
What is most regrettable about it, is how many people were fooled during his life, only to find out about it when it was too late.
 
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