France adheres to the Maginot Line plan properly

Jun 2015
5,723
UK
#1
If France executes the Maginot Line properly, and is backed up by the BEF, how would this change WWII?

Would Hitler still have defeated France, or would this have halted the invasion of the USSR, or even the North Africa Campaign?

Hitler may have tried to attack North Africa still, with Mussolini, but then the British with superior naval forces and Imperial forces could still gather in Egypt.

Hitler may also launch an earlier Battle of Britain, but the French air force would still have been active.His hope may have been to open a southern French front with Mussolini, or got Mussolini to invade Marseilles, Monaco, and up to Lyon.

He has to hope though that Stalin doesn't declare war on him, since the 1939 Pact between him and Stalin was a rouse on both sides. Defeat the Western Allies in any event is key to him winning the war, and if by 1941, France and the UK are still active, then he may well grind himself down. The UK can also share radar tech with the French, and be more able to shoot down German planes.
 

pugsville

Ad Honorem
Oct 2010
9,270
#2
If France executes the Maginot Line properly, and is backed up by the BEF, how would this change WWII?

what do you mean "adhere to the Maginot line plan properly"?

Do you mean remain of the defence and construct defences on the frontier during the phony war leaving the Belgians and Dutch no their own?
 
Jun 2015
5,723
UK
#4
what do you mean "adhere to the Maginot line plan properly"?

Do you mean remain of the defence and construct defences on the frontier during the phony war leaving the Belgians and Dutch no their own?
Part of the reason why France fell was since they made errors in their original defence plan.
 
Apr 2015
627
Paris
#6
Belgium was an allied power till 1936, so there were no construction but light bunkers and field artillery points. After 1936 and the declaration of neutrality of the Belgians, the construction of more important line began, but with less time and means, it was never up to the Metz region standards. If you want a full-fledged Maginot line from Rhine to sea, the PoD you need is not a non-existent "first design" of the line, but an earlier declaration of neutrality from the Belgians.

On a larger scale, the Maginot line was not designed to stop the Germans, but to delay them in order to organize the army and the counter-attacks.
 
Jul 2016
9,560
USA
#8
Part of the reason why France fell was since they made errors in their original defence plan.
Yeah, it was called trusting Belgium to stop the Germans. Did you ever look at a map of the Maginot Line and wonder why it stopped after Luxembourg? Because the French Belgian diplomats said so, Belgium tried to play neutral and delayed constructing adequate defenses on the Beglian-German border, even knowing that they would again be the likely avenue the Germans would once again use to invade France. By the time Belgium politicians made up their minds and allocated the fund to build proper defenses, and France got the permission to fortify the French-Belgian border it was too late, there were too little time to build the fortresses and stage the units, leaving too many gaps and weaknesses that could be exploited by the Germans.

The actual Maginot Line performed exactly the role it was intended for and even handed it to the Germans of Army Groups B and C which got mauled assaulting the rear and front of the Line. The officers commanding the forts only capitulated because at that point resistance was futile, France had already fallen to the Germans.


 
Oct 2016
238
GB
#9
they didnt. you don't.
On 14 June 1940, the day Paris fell, the*German 1st Army*went over to the offensive in "Operation Tiger" and attacked the Maginot Line between*St. Avoldand*Saarbrücken. The Germans then broke through the fortification line as defending French forces retreated southward.

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Nov 2015
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Bye, bye
#10
On 14 June 1940, the day Paris fell, the*German 1st Army*went over to the offensive in "Operation Tiger" and attacked the Maginot Line between*St. Avoldand*Saarbrücken. The Germans then broke through the fortification line as defending French forces retreated southward.

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Sorry but you're wrong.
Please read the source part "battle of France", that's impressive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortified_Sector_of_the_Sarre


French broke german attack to 1 to 10 by june the 14 1940.
French had already received orders of withdrawal before the attack and they retreated on order by june the 15.
They held the line knowing they had to retreat the day after....they were soldiers of the XXth corps (general hubert).
Plus it must be pointed out that it was one of the less powerfull point of the Maginot line.
 
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