Frankish defeat by Muslims = no modern civilisation?

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The Romans/ Latins were Indo-Europeans, so had a common origin with other Indo-European peoples like the Greeks, Celts, Germans etc in eastern Europe. Italic and Celtic languages are considered to be particularly closely related. This might reflect a common origin in the late Bronze Age Urnfield culture.

That is a beautiful map. Please remind us who brought down the Roman Empire??? I recall those to the north. During the crusades those same people leveled Constantinople to the ground and made it an easy prey for the Ottomans.
 
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It is a pity that people have to steal other people's history to feel good about themselves.
No, the real pitty is when people grasp a bit of history, and that not for learning something but just for using it for sustaining their own preconceived ideas.

Like this line of posts of Yours, for example.
 
Romans came from Troy. Not Europe. Etruscans came from Anatolia. Not Europe.

Are you sure about that?


Natives of the Iberian Peninsula were Romanized becos they had no culture on their own. Hence Romanization is not a source of pride... quite opposite actually..


Natives of the Gaul were Romanized becos they had no culture on their own. Hence Romanization is not a source of pride... quite opposite actually..


Natives of Britain were Romanized becos they had no culture on their own. Hence Romanization is not a source of pride... quite opposite actually..


Natives of the Balkan were Romanized becos they had no culture on their own. Hence Romanization is not a source of pride... quite opposite actually..


Nope. The Romans and the Etruscans were from Anatolia.


Bcos they had no culture. Anatolian Trojans and not the least the Anatolian Etruscans brought culture and civilization to Italy.


Many many many more were outside Europe. Those outside Europe were centers of civilization not those within.


Bcos they had no culture.


Not the slightest.



Not quite.

It is a pity that people have to steal other people's history to feel good about themselves.
What an ignorant post. As already noted, the myth of Trojan ancestry is just that, a myth, and it was intended by the Romans to locate themselves within the Greek mythological landscape (just like their co-option of Heraclean myths). As for Spain, Gaul, the German lands and the Balkans having no culture, and your claims that there wasn't a significant European population in the Roman Empire, these are ludicrous assertions that really shouldn't merit a response.
 
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