- Oct 2011
Stannis may have believed he was Azor Ahai, but he was never comfortable with it. He saw it as his duty, not as his privilege. And it was the Red Woman who convinced him he was Azor Ahai, because she misinterpreted her visions. And if you read the books (do it, they will fill in a lot of gaps and stupid things from the show), you see that Stannis hates being hailed as a saviour. He only does what he does because he sees it as his duty towards the Seven Kingdoms. It is Melisandre who sees him as a messianic figure, not himself. And he is only keeping her around because her magic is useful.LOL
Stannis literally believed he was Azor Ahai reborn. Everything he did as king was because of religious fervor. He literally takes orders from a witch and sacrificed his own daughter, all to appease the Lord of Light.
Then he dies. Nope, not the promised savior of humanity, whoops! But oh wait, he comes Jon Snow, resurrected from death. Literally stabbed to death and then brought back to life by the same religious witch who then tells him he is the chosen one. The ONLY reason Onion knight switched allegiance was because he believed the prophecy too. So your two examples are literally the worst.
Why chosen as King of the North? Because he's 1) A man 2) Supposedly the son of Ned Stark (whoops, they got that wrong too, also wrong about him being any sort of savior). So again, hereditary is literally the only reason he becomes king.
Now look at Dany. Look at the title. One part of that, being a Targ, is hereditary. The rest she did on her own.
Jon Snow is the same as Stannis. Again, he doesn't care whether he is messianic figure or not, he just does his duty. As for being chosen King in the North, he got chosen because he is a 1) proven military leader, and 2) descendant of the rightful ruling dynasty. Being a man has nothing to do with it beyond the fact that men are 1) more expendable and 2) better at fighting, especially in medieval conditions, and are thus expected to be soldiers. As for mistake, nobody knew. That is kinda the point.
Danerys? She is Targaryen, and she inherited three dragon eggs, as well as having support of big names such as Ilyrio and Varys. Her achievements are literally impossible without these three factors. She only gains khalasar because of a) being sold to a khan (arranged by Ilyrio), b) blood magic and c) having dragons. She gains Unsullied by pretending to sell one of three dragon eggs she had inherited. While these achievements are impressive for sure, you are damn wrong about most of her title being what "she did on her own".
EDIT: And yes, I know she had suffered, and been through lot of s**t, but we see almost nothing of that in the show. And even then, it was mostly Viserys who suffered, not her.
EDIT2: I'll just quote this, might add to my explanation:
- She’s not an underdog. Maybe once she was, but not now. More than that, a lot of what she has now feels in many ways unearned: She got dragons eggs because of who she was; what should have been a terrible error in judgment got her dragons; she got the Unsullied with no sacrifice or output or loss of her own; she got to fly away from Meereen when things got tough and other people had to deal with the aftermath; a lot of her advisers/helpers fall into her lap because of what other people have done to them, including Barristan, Tyrion, Yara, Theon, Olenna and the Sand Snakes. They’re with her because of what she can do for them, and that’s it. Even her Dothraki massacre was done with no real exertion on her part, given that the idiot showrunners went ahead and made her fireproof. There’s the sense that she hasn’t worked for anything, it’s either fallen in her lap or worked out because other people (Slaver’s Bay, hai) keep acting dumber than she does. Jon literally died and has been in the blood and muck for people, putting his own skin in the game to gain people’s loyalty. The fact that he’s not immune to anything makes what he does more meaningful, because it involves actual risk.