Hate the portrayal of Celts in Hollywood

Aug 2018
8
America
#1
Notice the portrayal of Celts in the following films:

Braveheart
King Arthur
The Eagle
Brave

They all have in common that they have no tactics and strategies when fighting other opponents, are naked or semi-naked, and paint their bodies with very crude tattoos, as well as lacking in civilisation in comparison to other civilisations like the Romans. I can't be the only annoyed by this. It's as if Hollywood script writers knew nothing about Hallstatt and La Tene.
 
Aug 2012
1,543
#4
Far worse is them being depicted as "noble savages". William Wallace, for example, is portrayed as some kind of rustic everyman rather than a member of the Scottish nobility.
They think they are doing the Scots a service by showing them as somehow more humble and "in tune with nature" than the (often pantomime-level) English, but by doing so you're reducing an entire people and culture to the level of bloody Elves from a Tolkien book, or, more accurately, a particularly preachy episode of Captain Planet.
They were not bumpkins, they had thriving cities, complex diplomacy, internal power struggles, religious schisms. And yet they are often depicted in the same bizarre way as Native Americans, as backwards simpletons who nevertheless are so pure and good and are so in tune with the Earth or whatever.
 

Scaeva

Ad Honorem
Oct 2012
5,472
#5
Far worse is them being depicted as "noble savages". William Wallace, for example, is portrayed as some kind of rustic everyman rather than a member of the Scottish nobility.
They think they are doing the Scots a service by showing them as somehow more humble and "in tune with nature" than the (often pantomime-level) English, but by doing so you're reducing an entire people and culture to the level of bloody Elves from a Tolkien book, or, more accurately, a particularly preachy episode of Captain Planet.
They were not bumpkins, they had thriving cities, complex diplomacy, internal power struggles, religious schisms. And yet they are often depicted in the same bizarre way as Native Americans, as backwards simpletons who nevertheless are so pure and good and are so in tune with the Earth or whatever.
The portrayal of the Scots in Braveheart was just plain weird. Woad and going into battle unarmored? Seems they got medieval Scots mixed up with ancient Britons. All that was missing was William Wallace going into battle on a chariot.

Scottish armies of the period looked and fought much like English armies of the period.
 
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Sep 2012
947
Tarkington, Texas
#6
The Lowlanders had armor and better weapons than the Highlanders. The Scots without armor were able to move around the English at will. I was surprized the English formations dissolved into chaos so quickly. Wallace was a Lowlander.



Pruitt
 
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Aug 2010
15,655
Welsh Marches
#7
They think they are doing the Scots a service by showing them as somehow more humble and "in tune with nature" than the (often pantomime-level) English, but by doing so you're reducing an entire people and culture to the level of bloody Elves from a Tolkien book
:lol:
 
Aug 2018
8
America
#8
Far worse is them being depicted as "noble savages". William Wallace, for example, is portrayed as some kind of rustic everyman rather than a member of the Scottish nobility.
They think they are doing the Scots a service by showing them as somehow more humble and "in tune with nature" than the (often pantomime-level) English, but by doing so you're reducing an entire people and culture to the level of bloody Elves from a Tolkien book, or, more accurately, a particularly preachy episode of Captain Planet.
They were not bumpkins, they had thriving cities, complex diplomacy, internal power struggles, religious schisms. And yet they are often depicted in the same bizarre way as Native Americans, as backwards simpletons who nevertheless are so pure and good and are so in tune with the Earth or whatever.
Took the words from me. Exactly this.
 
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Aug 2018
8
America
#9
The portrayal of the Scots in Braveheart was just plain weird. Woad and going into battle unarmored? Seems they got medieval Scots mixed up with ancient Britons. All that was missing was William Wallace going into battle on a chariot.

Scottish armies of the period looked and fought much like English armies of the period.
Since not all Celts were the same, were Britons also described as fighting naked? In any case, only certain detachments of continental Celts fought naked. We're talking about the same people that invented chainmail in Europe.