Heinlein, Starship Troopers

Dec 2011
375
Albion (twinned with Numenor)
Pfc Rodger Young

I came across some of the lyrics to "The Ballard Of Rodger Young" in Paul Fussell's "Wartime" (which isn't very good, at least about British society in WWII).

This prompted me to look up the whole ballad, and info on Pfc Young himself. The only things i knew about him previously came from the medal citation which appears at the end of the novel.

Rodger Young, it appears, was not your "typical" hero jock:

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodger_Wilton_Young]Rodger Wilton Young - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

and the lyrics of the whole ballad are not extravagantly war-glorifying:

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballad_of_Rodger_Young]The Ballad of Rodger Young - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


Heinlein undoubtedly knew the whole song, and presumably knew more about Pfc Young than just the citation for his MoH. This, I would suggest, shows a bit more light on the accusations that Heinlein was glorifying war. The choice of Rodger Young as a reference in the book over a more conventional MoH winner would seem to indicate Heinlein was making a point about sacrifice. Rodger Young's determination to serve is another element that resonates with the novel.
 
Feb 2013
7
Birmingham, AL
I read Starship Troopers after I returned home from the military back in 1989 and was one of those books that had a profound impact on me as a young man finding his way in the world. The concepts of responsible citizenship and service to the greater community resonated in me and helped develop these ideas as I came of age and cement my feelings on the role in society I had just come back from. Powerful book and I for one highly recommend it.
 
Jul 2012
147
Earth
I read awhile back that they're making another Starship Troopers that's more faithful to the book. I remember the makers this time are not afraid to really express Heinlein's views in their film adaptation...or so they claim.
 

okamido

Forum Staff
Jun 2009
29,885
land of Califia
I read awhile back that they're making another Starship Troopers that's more faithful to the book. I remember the makers this time are not afraid to really express Heinlein's views in their film adaptation...or so they claim.
I wonder if they will have the nuts to portray the protagonist as he is in the book, a Filipino.
 
Aug 2014
1,832
Huntington Beach CA
I wonder if they will have the nuts to portray the protagonist as he is in the book, a Filipino.
It would give the movie a major new market. The Philippines has a population of over 100 million, most avid moviegoers or video buyers and it's own vibrant movie industry. Handled right, the movie would be a success in India, too.
I hope that they don't make the Bugs too big this time, though. Making the Arachnids almost dinosaur size detracted from the last film.
 

OpanaPointer

Ad Honoris
Dec 2010
11,643
Near St. Louis.
I wonder if they will have the nuts to portray the protagonist as he is in the book, a Filipino.
A Fillipino from Brazil. :)

I took three books to Asia, LOTR, Stranger in a Strange Land, and Starship Troopers. I eventually bought six more copies in the following two years, three months.
 
Aug 2014
1,832
Huntington Beach CA
I think that Heinlein's best book, which contained the kernel of Heinlein's libertarian philosophy, was "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress". Informed by Heinlein's early 60s visit to Australia (and particular, Coober Pedy,( an underground opal mining community ruled at the time by the Miner's Union with no outside policing), TMIHM states Heinlein's philosophy of "rational anarchy", which provides for minimal government, but without treating the wealthy and the innovative as somehow superior to the rest of the people, as Heinlein's contemporary, Ayn Rand did. TMIHM is a useful counterpoint, not only to Atlas Shrugged, but to Starship Troopers. In both Starship Troopers and Heinlein's Luna Free State, power rightly belongs to those who are willing to risk their lives for their communities. TMIHM has spawned the most sincere form of flattery, imitation by a number of other science fiction writers, notably Ben Bova, the Kollins (The Unincorporated Man series), Jerry Pournelle and online, E.J. Nalley , who have turned wars of independence on the Moon and Mars into a science fiction genre.
 
Dec 2014
1
bulgaria
I definetelly think that this is one of the best sci-fi book about military ever written what is your favorite quite in it ? Mine is : To permit irresponsible authority is to sell disaster.
 
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