Heirs of the "Byzantine" Empire?

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Heirs of Emperor Alexios III Angelos who ruled from 1195-1203.
1) Emperor Alexios III Angelos.
2) Irene Angelina (died after 1203) Daughter. Married First Andronikos Kontostefanos no known children. Married second Despot Alexios Komnenos Palaiologos.
3) Theodora Palaiologina (born 1200) Daughter. Married Andronikos Doukas Komnenos Palaiologos.
4) Emperor Michael VIII Palaiologos (1224/25?-1282) Son.
5) Emperor Andronikos II Palaiologos (1259-1332) Son.
(Emperor Michael IX Palaiologos (1277-1320) Son.)
6) Emperor Andronikos III Palaiologos (1297-1341) Grandson.
7) Emperor John V Palaiologos (1332-1391) Son.
8) Emperor Andronikos IV Palaiologos (1348-1385) Oldest Son.
9) Emperor John VII Palaiologos (1370-1408) Son. No surviving children.
10) Emperor Manuel II Palaiologos (1350-1425) Younger Son of John V.
11) Emperor John VIII Palaiologos (died 1448) Oldest Son. Childless.
12) Emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos (1405-1453) Younger Brother. Childless.
13) Desport Demetrios Palaiologos (died 1470) Younger Brother. No surviving children.
(Despot Thomas Palaiologos (1409/10?-1465) Youngest brother. Recognized imperial claimant)
14) Andreas Palaiologos (1453-1502) Older Son. Recognized claimant of the Empire.
15) Manuel Palaiologos (1455-before 1512) Younger Brother. Sold claim to Turkish Sultan.
16) Andreas Palaiologos (died after 1519) Younger Son. Converted to Islam.
(Helena Palaiologina (1431?-1473) Older daughter of Thomas Palaiologos. Married Despot Lazar Brankovich of Serbia)
(Milica Brankovich (died 1464) Daughter. Married Leonardo III Tocco)
17) Carlo III Tocco (1464-1518?) Son.
18) Leonardo IV Tocco. Son.
19) Franceso di Tocco, Lord of Refrancore (died 1598) Son.
20) Leonardo V di Tocco, Despot of Arta, Prince of Acaja (1591-1641) Son.
21) Antonio di Tocco, Prince of Acaja (died 1678) Son.
22) Carlo di Tocco, 3rd Prince of Montemiletto (died 1701) Son.
23) Leonardo di Tocco, count of Monataperto (1698-1776) Son.
24) Restaino di Tocco Cantalmo-Stuart, 5th Prince of Montemiletto (1730-1796) Son.
25) Carlo 6th Prince of Montemiletto (1756-1824) Son.
26) Francesco, 7th Prince of Montemiletto (1790-1877) Son.
27) Carlo, 8th Prince of Montemiletto (1827-1888) Son.
28) Carlo Capece Galeota (1824-1908), Duke of Regina, etc., Prince of Montemiletto and Achaia, etc. First Cousin. Son of Francesco (1783-1838), Duke of Regina, etc, and Maddalena di Tocco Cantalmo Stuart, daughter of Carlo, 6th Prince of Montemiletto.
29) Maria Maddalena Capece Galeota(1859-1933) Daughter. Married Giuseppi Carelli.
30) Luigi Serra, 9th Duke of Cassano (1868-1935) Cousin. Son of Francesco Serra, 7th Duke of Cassano (1843-1917) Son of Luigi Serra, 6th Duke of Cassano (1810-1883) Son of Guiseppi Serra, 5th Duke of Cassano (1771-1837) and Teresa di Tocco Cantalmo Stuart, daughter of Carlo, 6th Prince of Montemiletto.
31) Francesco Serra, 10th Duke of Cassano (1914-1998) Son.
32) Luigi Serra, 11th Duke of Cassano (born 1939) Son.
 
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MAGolding

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I will start with a pure genealogical claim.

Emperor Constantine XI (1405-1453) had no children.

His younger brothers Demitrios (c. 1407-1470) and Thomas (c.1409-1465) Palaiologos ruled as Despots in the Morea. They quarreled too much to chose either of them as the next emperor, and in 1460 the Ottomans conquered the Morea.

Demetrios lived in the Ottoman empire and his daughter Helena Palaiologina (1442-1470) may have entered the harem of Sultan Mehmed II, but it has been said Mehmed feared she might poison him and didn't take her.

Thomas Palaiologos moved to Rome after the fall of the Morea and was recognized as the rightful Emperor. His elder son Andreas (1453-1502) succeeded as titular Emperor and died without any known children, though some legitimate or illegitimate ones have been alleged. The younger brother Manuel Palaiologos (1455-1512) eventually returned to Constantinople and sold his rights to the throne to Sultan Mehmed II. His older son John died young, and his younger son Andreas became a Muslim.

Thomas Palaiologos had a younger daughter Zoe/Sophia Palaiologina (c.1440/1449-1503 who famously married Ivan III the Great, Grand Prince of Moscow in 1472. Their last known descendant as Maria Vladimirovna of Starista (c. 1550-1610) wife of King Magnus of Livonia (1540-1583).

But the older daughter of Thomas Palaiologos was Helena Palaiologina (1431-1473) who married Lazar Brankovic, Despot of Serbia, in 1446. Their eldest daughter Jelena/Maria (c.1447-1500) married King Stephen Tomasevic of Bosnia in 1459 but had no known children. Their youngest daughter Jerina married Gjon Kastrioti II (1456-1502), the son of Skanderbeg, who became Duke of San Pietro in Galatina in 1485.

The middle daughter of Helena and Lazar, Milica Brankovic (died 1464) married Leonardo III Tocco in 1463. Their son Carlo III Tocco (1464-1518) was the titular ruler of Epirus (Arta) and Zakynthos. Carlo III was the father of Leonard IV Tocco, father of Franceso di Tocco, Lord of Refrancore (died 1598), father of Leonardo V di Tocco, Despot of Arta, Prince of Acaja (1591-1641), father of Antonio di Tocco, Prince of Acaja (died 1678), father of Carlo di Tocco, 3rd Prince of Montemiletto (died 1701), father of Leonardo di Tocco, count of Monataperto (1698-1776), father of Restaino di Tocco Cantalmo-Stuart, 5th Prince of Montemiletto (1730-1796), father of Carlo 6th Prince of Montemiletto (1756-1824), father of Francesco, 7th Prince of Montemiletto (1790-1877), father of Carlo, 8th Prince of Montemiletto (1827-1888), the last of the lineage.

Carlo di Tocco Cantelmo Stuart, 6th prince of Montemiletto, * 1756 | Geneall.net

William Miller, in The Latins in the Levant: the history of Frankish Greece (1204-1566) 1908, pages 452-455, and 485-489 mentions the Palaiologous and Tocco heirs of the "Byzantine" Empire. He says the Toccos claimed the Despotate of Arta but eventually started to claim the Principality of Achaia instead:



https://archive.org/stream/latinsinlevanta00millgoog#page/n519/mode/2up

Carlo Capece Galeota (1824-1908), Duke of Regina, etc., Prince of Montemiletto and Achaia, etc. was the son of Francesco (1783-1838), Duke of Regina, etc, and Maddalena di Tocco Cantalmo Stuart, daughter of Carlo, 6th Prince of Montemiletto. His daughter Maria Maddalena (1859-1933) married Giuseppi Carelli.

Famiglia Capece Galeota

Carlo, 6th Prince of Montemiletto, had a daughter Teresa (1781-1832) who married Guiseppi Serra, 5th Duke of Cassano (1771-1837), and they were parents of Luigi Serra, 6th Duke of Cassano (1810-1883), father of Francesco Serra, 7th Duke of Cassano (1843-1917), father of Guiseppi Serra, 8th duke of Cassano (1867-1918) who died childless and was succeeded by his brother Luigi Serra, 9th Duke of Cassano (1868-1935), father of Francesco Serra, 10th Duke of Cassano (1914-1998), father of Luigi Serra, 11th Duke of Cassano (born 1939).

Luigi Serra duke of Cassano, marquess of Rivadebro e Serra, * 1939 | Geneall.net

Alternate history.com has a thread "Recent male line descendants of Byzantine dynasties" that has a post by January First-of-May dated March 30, 2014 giving the succession of Tocco and Serra heirs. But the Capece Galeota heirs from 1888-1933 are omitted.

Recent male line descendants of Byzantine dynasties | Alternate History Discussion

Schwennicke, Detlev (1978–1995), Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge ("European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series"), Marburg, Germany: J. A. Stargardt - does have pages with the Tocco family tree. As I remember a number of daughters married other families of the Neapolitan nobility. The online index puts the Tocco family in Volume III, tables 594-596.

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So as far as I can tell, at the present time Luigi Serra, 11th Duke of Cassano (born 1939), is the rightful heir by genealogy of Thomas Palaiologos, who was accepted in Western Europe as the titular "Byzantine" Emperor in exile.
And here it is put into the list format that I usually use in this thread:

1) Emperor Michael VIII Palaiologos (1224/25?-1282) Founder of Dyansty.
2) Emperor Andronikos II Palaiologos (1259-1332) Son.
(Emperor Michael IX Palaiologos (1277-1320) Son.)
3) Emperor Andronikos III Palaiologos (1297-1341) Grandson.
4) Emperor John V Palaiologos (1332-1391) Son.
5) Emperor Andronikos IV Palaiologos (1348-1385) Oldest Son.
6) Emperor John VII Palaiologos (1370-1408) Son. No surviving children.
7) Emperor Manuel II Palaiologos (1350-1425) Younger Son of John V.
8) Emperor John VIII Palaiologos (died 1448) Oldest Son. Childless.
9) Emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos (1405-1453) Younger Brother. Childless.
10) Desport Demetrios Palaiologos (died 1470) Younger Brother. No surviving children.
(Despot Thomas Palaiologos (1409/10?-1465) Youngest brother. Recognized imperial claimant)
11) Andreas Palaiologos (1453-1502) Older Son. Recognized claimant of the Empire.
12) Manuel Palaiologos (1455-before 1512) Younger Brother. Sold claim to Turkish Sultan.
13) Andreas Palaiologos (died after 1519) Younger Son. Converted to Islam.
(Helena Palaiologina (1431?-1473) Older daughter of Thomas Palaiologos. Married Despot Lazar Brankovich of Serbia)
(Milica Brankovich (died 1464) Daughter. Married Leonardo III Tocco)
14) Carlo III Tocco (1464-1518?) Son.
15) Leonardo IV Tocco. Son.
16) Franceso di Tocco, Lord of Refrancore (died 1598) Son.
17) Leonardo V di Tocco, Despot of Arta, Prince of Acaja (1591-1641) Son.
18) Antonio di Tocco, Prince of Acaja (died 1678) Son.
19) Carlo di Tocco, 3rd Prince of Montemiletto (died 1701) Son.
20) Leonardo di Tocco, count of Monataperto (1698-1776) Son.
21) Restaino di Tocco Cantalmo-Stuart, 5th Prince of Montemiletto (1730-1796) Son.
22) Carlo 6th Prince of Montemiletto (1756-1824) Son.
23) Francesco, 7th Prince of Montemiletto (1790-1877) Son.
24) Carlo, 8th Prince of Montemiletto (1827-1888) Son.
25) Carlo Capece Galeota (1824-1908), Duke of Regina, etc., Prince of Montemiletto and Achaia, etc. First Cousin. Son of Francesco (1783-1838), Duke of Regina, etc, and Maddalena di Tocco Cantalmo Stuart, daughter of Carlo, 6th Prince of Montemiletto.
26) Maria Maddalena Capece Galeota(1859-1933) Daughter. Married Giuseppi Carelli.
27) Luigi Serra, 9th Duke of Cassano (1868-1935) Cousin. Son of Francesco Serra, 7th Duke of Cassano (1843-1917) Son of Luigi Serra, 6th Duke of Cassano (1810-1883) Son of Guiseppi Serra, 5th Duke of Cassano (1771-1837) and Teresa di Tocco Cantalmo Stuart, daughter of Carlo, 6th Prince of Montemiletto.
28) Francesco Serra, 10th Duke of Cassano (1914-1998) Son.
29) Luigi Serra, 11th Duke of Cassano (born 1939) Son.
 

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Heirs of Emperor Alexios III Angelos who ruled from 1195-1203.
1) Emperor Alexios III Angelos.
2) Anna Komnene Angelina (1175/80?-1212) Daughter. Married First Sebastokrator Isaac Komnenos (died soon after 1196).
3) Theodora Angelina Komnene. Daughter. Married Ivanko, a relative of Bulgarian Tsar Ivan Asen I. No known children.

Anna Komnene Angelina (1175/80?-1212) married Second Theodoros Komnenos Laskaris (1171/74?-1221) Emperor Theodore I Laskaris at Nicaea.
4) Irene Doukaina Komnene Laskarina (died 1239) Oldest? Daughter. Married First Despot Andronikos Palaiologos (died 1216?) No known children. Married second emperor John III Doukas Batatzes (1192?-1254).
5) Emperor Theodore II Doukas Laskaris (1221?-1258) Son.
6) Emperor Saint John IV Doukas Laskaris (1250-1305?) Deposed by Michael VIII Palaiologos. Childless.
7) Eudoxia Laskarina (1245/48-1311) 4th oldest sister. Wife of Count Guglielmo Pietro I of Ventimiglia and Tenda (1230-1283)
8) Jean de Lascaris, Count de ventemille, Son
9) Guillaume Pierrie II de Lascaris de Ventemille, Son.
10) Pierre Lascaris, Son.
11 Antoinio Lascaris, Son.
12) Onorato Lascaris (died 1475) Son.
13) Jean Antoine Lascaris (died 1509) Count of Tende, Son.
14) Anne Lascaris (1487-1554) Daughter & heiress, Wife of Rene of savoy ().
15) Claude, Count of Savoy-Tende (1507-1566) older son.
16) Anne of Savoy-Tende (after 1539-?) Daughter, wife of Enrico di Saluzzo di carde (died 1616)
17) Gicomo Francesco Saluzzo di carde (died 1623) son.
18) Diana Saluzzo di carde (died 1678) Daughter. Wife of Francesco Dal Pozzo.
19) Giacomo del Pozzo (1643-1696) Son.
20) Amadeo Alfonso del Pozzo (1662-1698) Son.
21) Alfonso del Pozzo (died by 1761) 3rd Prince della Cisterna. Son
22) (Guiseppi del Pozzo (1710-1754) son.)
23) Guiseppi del Pozzo (1748-1818) 4th Prince della Cisterna. Grandson
24) Carlo Emmanuele dal Pozzo (1787-1864) 5th Prince della Cisterna. Son.
25) Maria Vittoria dal Pozzo, Princess della Cisterna (1847-1876) Older daughter, wife of Amadeus I, Duke of Aosta (1845-1890), King of Spain from 1870-1873.
26) Prince Emmanuel Philiberto, Duke of Aosta (1869-1931. Oldest son.
27) Prince Amadeo, Duke of Aosta (1898-1942) Oldest Son.
28) Margherita of Savoy-Aosta (born 1930), Older Daughter. Widow of Archduke Robert (1915-1996) of Austria-Este, second son of Emperor Charles I.

her son and heir:
Prince Lorenz of Belgium, Archduke of Austria-Este (born 1955) Oldest Son.

What about the heirs of other sisters of John IV LasKaris?

6) Emperor Saint John IV Doukas Laskaris (1250-1305?) Deposed by Michael VIII Palaiologos. Childless.
7) Irene Laskarina (died 1269) Sister. Married Constantine Tih (killed 1277) Tsar of Bulgaria from 1258 to 1277.
8) Unnamed daughter of Constantine Tih by his first wife Irene Laskarina or his second wife. Married Tsar Smilec (reigned 1292-1298) as his first wife.
9) Theodora (died 1322). Daughter of Smilec and his first wife. Married King Stefan Uros III Decanski of Serbia. (1276?-1336).
10) Stefan Dusan (1308?-1355) King of Serbia and Emperor of the Serbs and the Romans. Son.
11) Emperor Stefan Uros IV. (1336/37-1371) Son. Childless.
12) Daughter of Smilec and his first wife. Married Eltimir (died after 1305).
13) Ivan Dragusin. Son of Eltimir.

6) Emperor Saint John IV Doukas Laskaris (1250-1305?) Deposed by Michael VIII Palaiologos. Childless.
7) Maria Doukaina Laskarina (died 1258/59?) Sister. Married Nikephoros Doukas Komnenos [Angelos] (1240?-1296/98?)
8) One possible daughter, alleged by some to have married Infante Fadique of Castile, no children.

6) Emperor Saint John IV Doukas Laskaris (1250-1305?) Deposed by Michael VIII Palaiologos. Childless.
7) Theodora Laskarina (died after 1273) Sister. Married First Mathieu of Mons, baron of Velligostli in the Morea. Children? Married Second (1273?) Jakov Svetoslav (killed 1275/77), rival Tsar of the Bulgarians. Children?

Heirs of other daughters of Emperor Theodore I Laskaris:

Heirs of Emperor Alexios III Angelos who ruled from 1195-1203.
1) Emperor Alexios III Angelos.
2) Anna Komnene Angelina (1175/80?-1212) Daughter. Married First Sebastokrator Isaac Komnenos (died soon after 1196).
3) Theodora Angelina Komnene. Daughter. Married Ivanko, a relative of Bulgarian Tsar Ivan Asen I. No known children.

Anna Komnene Angelina (1175/80?-1212) married Second Theodoros Komnenos Laskaris (1171/74?-1221) Emperor Theodore I Laskaris at Nicaea.
4) Evdokia Laskarina (1210/12?-1247/53?) Daughter. Married Anseau (V) de Cayeux.
5) Eudoxia (Marie) de Cayeux . Daughter. Married Dreux de Beaumont, son of Adam (II) Seignor de Beumont-en-Gatiois. Marshall of Siscily.

1) Emperor Alexios III Angelos.
2) Anna Komnene Angelina (1175/80?-1212) Daughter. Married First Sebastokrator Isaac Komnenos (died soon after 1196).
3) Theodora Angelina Komnene. Daughter. Married Ivanko, a relative of Bulgarian Tsar Ivan Asen I. No known children.
Anna Komnene Angelina (1175/80?-1212) married Second Theodoros Komnenos Laskaris (1171/74?-1221) Emperor Theodore I Laskaris at Nicaea.
4) Maria Laskarina (c.1206-1270) daughter. Wife of Bela IV of Hungary.
5) King Stephen V of Hungary (1239-1272) son.
6) Catherine (1255/1257-?) First or Second Daughter. Wife of King Stefan Dragutin of Serbia.
7) Vladislav (died after 1326) Son. Possible descendants.
8) Jelisaveta (died 1331) Sister. Wife of Stefan Kotroman Ban of Bosnia.
9) Stefan Kotromanic (died 1353) son. Ban of bosnia.
10) Jelisaveta (c.1340-1387) Daughter. Queen of Hungary and Poland.
11) Queen Maria of Hungary (1371-1395) Daughter. Childless.
12) Queen Jadviga of Poland (1373-1400) Sister. Childless.
13) Stefan Tvertko II King of Bosnia (died 1443) Great grandson of Stefan Kotromanic.
14) Frederick II Count of Cilli (C.1379-1454) Third Cousin (Son of Herman II of Cilli, Son of Herman I of Cilli and Catharine of Bosnia Daughter of Vladislav Kotromanic brother of Stefan Kotromanic).
15) Ulric Count of Cilli (1406-1456) Son. No surviving descendants.
16) Ladislaus King of Hugary and Bohemia. (1440-1457) First Cousin Once Removed (Son of Eliazabeth (1409-1442) Daughter of Emperor Sigismund and Barbara (c. 1392-1451) Daughter of Herman II Count of Cilli).
17) Anna (1432-1462) Sister. Wife of Wilhelm III Landgrave of Thuringia.
18) Margareta (1449-1501) Daughter. Wife of Elector Johann Cicero of Brandenburg.
19) Joachim I Nestor (1484-1535) Elector of Brandenburg. Son.
20) Joachim II Hektor (1505-1571) Elector of Brandenburg. Son.
21) John George (1525-1598) Elector of Brandenburg. Son.
22) Joachim Frederick (1546-1608) Elector of Brandenburg. Son.
23) John Sigismund (1572-1619) Elector of Brandenburg & Duke of Prussia. Son.
24) George William (1595-1640) Elector of Brandenburg & Duke of Prussia. Son.
25) Frederick William (1620-1688) Elector of Brandenburg & Duke of Prussia. Son.
26) King Frederick I in Prussia (1657-17153 Son.
27) King Frederick William I in Prussia (1688-1740) Son.
28) King Frederick Ii of Prussia (1712-1786) Son. No Children.
29) King Frederick William II of Prussia (1744-1797) Nephew Son of Prince Augustus.
30) King Frederick William III of Prussia (1770-1840) Son.
31) King Frederick William IV of Prussia (1795-1861) Son. Childless.
32) Wilhelm I German Emperor (1797-1888) Brother.
33) Frederick III German Emperor (1831-1888) Son.
34) Wilhelm II German Emperor (1859-1941) Son.
35) Crown Prince Wilhelm (1882-1951) Son.

If equal marriage is not a requirement:
36) Princess Felicitas of Prussia (1934-2009) Granddaughter. (Daughter of Prince Wilhelm son of Crown Prince Wilhelm).
37) Hubertus Christoph Joachim Friedrich von der Osten (Born 1964) Son.

If male lineage but not equal marriage is a requirement;

36) Louis Ferdinand Prince of Prussia (1907-1994). Second Son.
37) Prince Friedrich Wilhelm of Prussia (9 February 1939 - 29 September 2015) Oldest Son Made unequal marriage and renounced his rights.
38) Philip Kirill Prinz vn Prussen (born 1968). Son.

If equal marriage is a requirement:
36) Louis Ferdinand Prince of Prussia (1907-1994). Second Son.
37) Georg Friedrich Prince of Prussia (born 1976) Grandson, Son of Prince Louis Ferdina
 
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Heirs of Emperor Alexios III Angelos who ruled from 1195-1203.
1) Emperor Alexios III Angelos.
2) Evdokia Komnene Angelina (died after 1208) Daughter. Married First in 1191: Stefan, Grand Zupan of Serbia 1196-1217? and First King of Serbia 1217-1228.
3) Stefan Radoslav King of Serbia (1191/1201-after 1235) King of Serbia 1224/27-1233/34.
(Dragoslav Jovan (died after 1315) possible son of King Stefan Radoslav.)
(Stanisa (died after 1315) Son of Dragoslav Jovan)
(Nikola Stanjevic (died 1371?) Son of Stanisa)
(Georgie Stanise. Son of Stanisa)
(Ana (1270/80-after 1315) Daughter of Dragoslav Jovan. Married (1292?) Sisman. No known children.)
4) Komina Daughter of Stefan the first King of Serbia. Married First Dimitrji Progonovic (died 1215) Lord of Kruji.
5) Daughter of Komina married Goulamos Lord of Kruji.
Komina married second Grgur Kamonas Archon of Kruji and Elbasan.
6) Unnamed daughter of Stefan the first King of Serbia. Married Alexander (died before 1241) son of Ivan Asen I of Bulgaria.
7) Koloman (mured 1258) Son. Murdered Tsar Michael II Asen, married his widow, and usurped throne in 1257.

1) Emperor Alexios III Angelos.
2) Evdokia Komnene Angelina (died after 1208) Daughter. Married Second in 1204:
Emperor Alexios V Doukas ruled Fedbruary to April 1204. Killed November 1204. no known children.
Married Third 1204 Leon Sguros Archon of Navplion (died 1208). No known children.
 

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Heirs of Komnenos Emperors at Trebizond.

Manuel "Erotikos" Komnenos. A soldier and general from Comne near Adrianople in Thrace. Built Castle Komnenon in Castomon in Paphligonia. Died by 1025.

Isaac I Komnenos (c. 1005/1010?-1061). Older son. Emperor 1057-1059. Married Catherine Princess of Bulgaria and had two Chldren:

Manuel Komnenos (died by 1057) And Maria Komnene (died after 1059).

John Komnenos, younger son of Manuel "Erotikos" Komnenos (c.1010/15?-1067).

Alexios I Komnenos, a younger son of John Komnenos. (1056/57-1118). Emperor 1081-1118.
Caesar Isaac Komnenos, a younger son of Emperor Alexios I Komnenos. (1093-after 1152). Plotted against his brother Emperor John II Komnenos.
John Komnenos Tzelepes (after 1114-1145?) Deserted to Turks, converted to Islam, and married daughter of Sultan Masud I of Rum. Father of Suleiman Shah, said by some to be the Suleiman Shah alleged to be the ancestor of the Ottoman dynasty.
Andronikos I Komnenos (1123/24-1185) Younger son of Caesar Isaac Komnenos. He often plotted against his cousin Emperor Manuel I. He usurped the throne in 1183 and began a bloody reign of terror.
John Komnenos (1158/59-1185) Younger son of Emperor Andronikos I. Declared his heir and killed in 1185.
Manuel Komnenos (before 1152-1185 or later) Older son of Emperor Andronikos I. blinded in 1185.
1) Emperor Alexios I Megas Komnenos (1181/82-1221) Older son of Manuel Komnenos and grandson of Emperor Andronikos I Komnenos. Traitorously captured the city of Trebizond while Constantinople was besieged by the Fourth Crusade. Founder and first Emperor in Trebizond.
2) John I auxouchos Komnenos (died 1238) Older son. Succeeded his brother-in-law Emperor Andronikos I Gidos in 1235.
?) Possible son Ioannikios Komnenos (died after 1238) who would have been the rightful heir if he existed.
3) Emperor Manuel I Megas Komnenos (died 1263) Younger son of Alexios I.
4) Emperor Andronikos II Megas Komnenos (died 1266) Son. Childless?
5) Emperor George Megas Komnenos (died after 1284) Younger brother. Deposed and sent to the Ilkhan in 1284. Childless?
(Theodora Empress in Trebizond. Sister ruled 1284/85. Childless?)
6) Emperor John II Megas Komnenos (died 1297) Brother. Went to Constantinople in 1282 to marry the daughter of Emperor Michael VIII Palaiologogs. Gave up the title of King and Emperor of the Romans and accepted the title of despot from Emperor Michael VIII as a sign of his vassalage. But he and his successors continued to use the less exalted title of "King and Emperor of the Whole East, the Iberians, and the Overseas Province".
7) Emperor Alexios II Palaiologos Megas Komnenos (1283-1330) Son.
8) Emperor Andronikos III Megas Komnenos (mured 1332) Son.
9) Emperor Manuel II Megas Komnenos (1123/24-murdered Feb? 1333) Son. Reigned 8 months. Childless.
10) Emperor Basil Megas Komnenos. (poisoned 1340) Uncle. Usurper.
11) Empresss Anna Anachatlous Komnene (Murdered 1342). sister. Reigned 1341-1342. Childless?
(Evdokia Komnene (died after 1357) Sister. Married unknown of Sinope. Children?)
12) Emperor Michael Megas Komnenos (1285-after 1355). Younger son of Emperor John II Megas Komnenos. Reigned 30 July 1341 and 1343-1349.
13) Emperor John III Megas Komnenos (died 1362) Son of Emperor Michael. Reigned 1342-1343.
14) Unnamed Komnenos (died after 1362) Son of John III.
15) Emperor Kaloioannes Angelos Doukas Megas Komnenos (1338-1390). Son of usurper Basil. Reigned as Emperor Alexios III 1349 to 1390.
16) Emperor Manuel IIIAchpugas Megas Komnenos (1363-1412). Son.
17) Emperor Alexios IV Megas Komnenos (1382- murdered 1429). Son.
18) Emperor John IV Megas Komnenos (before 1403-1460) Son.
(Alexander Megas Komnenos (died by 1159) Brother.)
(Alexios Megas Komnenos (1454-beheaded 1163) Son of Allexander)
(David Megas Komnenos Emperor 1460-1461. Brother of John IV. Beheaded 1463 with his sons 1163.)
19) Theodora Mega Komnene (died after 1478) Daughter of John IV. Married Uzan Hasan, Khan of the White Sheep.
20) Halima daughter of Uzan Hasan and either Theodora or the daughter of Djihan Shah. Married Haydar Safavi, father of Shananshah Ismail I.
21) King of kings Ismail I (1487-1524). Son.
22) King of kings Tahmasp I (1487-1524). Son.
23) King of kings Mohammed Khodabanda (1532-1595). Older Son.
24) King of kings Abbas I (1571-1629). Son.
(Safi Mirza (1587-1615) Oldest Son)
25) King of Kings Shah Safi I (1611-1642) Grandson, son of Safi Mirza.
26) King of kings Abbas II (1632-1666). Son.
27) King of Kings Suleiman I or Shah Safi II (1648-1694) Son.
28) King of Kings Sultan Husayn (1668-1726) Deposed 1722. Son.
29) King of kings Tahmasp II (1704?-1739/40). Son. reigned 1729-1723. Murdered 1739/40.
30) King of kings Abbas III (1732-1739/40). Son. reigned 1732-1736. Murdered 1739/40.

At this point I am unable to trace the heirs of the Safavid Dynasty and the Komnenos Dynasty of Trebizond. But I have read that their are many descendants of the Safavids. For example, there have been many marriages between the Safavids and the Mughal dynasty of India.
 
Oct 2016
226
Greece
#97
As we all know, on 29 May 1453 the Ottomans captured Constantinople, Emperor Constantine XI was killed, and the "Byzantine" Empire, a continuation of the genuine original Roman Empire and Roman Republic that had been founded two thousand years before - came to an end.

Since many thousands of persons alive in 1453 have descendants that can be traced today, one might assume that most persons who could have claimed in 1453 to be the rightful heir of Constantine XI - and thus were more prominent than most persons alive in 1483 - will have descendants that can be traced today

So who is the rightful heir today of Constantine XI? Who do you nominate?
We cannot trace their heirs today because they were either killed or genocided by the Turks.

I guess, the real heirs of the Eastern Roman Empire and its real founders are the Greeks.
 

MAGolding

Ad Honorem
Aug 2015
2,806
Chalfont, Pennsylvania
#98
This is a previously given descent from Thomas Palaiologos, titular emperor in exile.

1) Emperor Michael VIII Palaiologos (1224/25?-1282) Founder of Dynasty.
2) Emperor Andronikos II Palaiologos (1259-1332) Son.
(Emperor Michael IX Palaiologos (1277-1320) Son.)
3) Emperor Andronikos III Palaiologos (1297-1341) Grandson.
4) Emperor John V Palaiologos (1332-1391) Son.
5) Emperor Andronikos IV Palaiologos (1348-1385) Oldest Son.
6) Emperor John VII Palaiologos (1370-1408) Son. No surviving children.
7) Emperor Manuel II Palaiologos (1350-1425) Younger Son of John V.
8) Emperor John VIII Palaiologos (died 1448) Oldest Son. Childless.
9) Emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos (1405-1453) Younger Brother. Childless.
10) Desport Demetrios Palaiologos (died 1470) Younger Brother. No surviving children.
(Despot Thomas Palaiologos (1409/10?-1465) Youngest brother. Recognized imperial claimant)
11) Andreas Palaiologos (1453-1502) Older Son. Recognized claimant of the Empire.
12) Manuel Palaiologos (1455-before 1512) Younger Brother. Sold claim to Turkish Sultan.
13) Andreas Palaiologos (died after 1519) Younger Son. Converted to Islam.
(Helena Palaiologina (1431?-1473) Older daughter of Thomas Palaiologos. Married Despot Lazar Brankovich of Serbia)
(Milica Brankovich (died 1464) Daughter. Married Leonardo III Tocco)
14) Carlo III Tocco (1464-1518?) Son.
15) Leonardo IV Tocco. Son.
16) Franceso di Tocco, Lord of Refrancore (died 1598) Son.
17) Leonardo V di Tocco, Despot of Arta, Prince of Acaja (1591-1641) Son.
18) Antonio di Tocco, Prince of Acaja (died 1678) Son.
19) Carlo di Tocco, 3rd Prince of Montemiletto (died 1701) Son.
20) Leonardo di Tocco, count of Monataperto (1698-1776) Son.
21) Restaino di Tocco Cantalmo-Stuart, 5th Prince of Montemiletto (1730-1796) Son.
22) Carlo 6th Prince of Montemiletto (1756-1824) Son.
23) Francesco, 7th Prince of Montemiletto (1790-1877) Son.
24) Carlo, 8th Prince of Montemiletto (1827-1888) Son.
25) Carlo Capece Galeota (1824-1908), Duke of Regina, etc., Prince of Montemiletto and Achaia, etc. First Cousin. Son of Francesco (1783-1838), Duke of Regina, etc, and Maddalena di Tocco Cantalmo Stuart, daughter of Carlo, 6th Prince of Montemiletto.
26) Maria Maddalena Capece Galeota(1859-1933) Daughter. Married Giuseppi Carelli.
27) Luigi Serra, 9th Duke of Cassano (1868-1935) Cousin. Son of Francesco Serra, 7th Duke of Cassano (1843-1917) Son of Luigi Serra, 6th Duke of Cassano (1810-1883) Son of Guiseppi Serra, 5th Duke of Cassano (1771-1837) and Teresa di Tocco Cantalmo Stuart, daughter of Carlo, 6th Prince of Montemiletto.
28) Francesco Serra, 10th Duke of Cassano (1914-1998) Son.
29) Luigi Serra, 11th Duke of Cassano (born 1939) Son.


Here is another descent from Thomas Palaiologos, titular emperor in exile.

1) Emperor Michael VIII Palaiologos (1224/25?-1282) Founder of Dynasty.
2) Emperor Andronikos II Palaiologos (1259-1332) Son.
(Emperor Michael IX Palaiologos (1277-1320) Son.)
3) Emperor Andronikos III Palaiologos (1297-1341) Grandson.
4) Emperor John V Palaiologos (1332-1391) Son.
5) Emperor Andronikos IV Palaiologos (1348-1385) Oldest Son.
6) Emperor John VII Palaiologos (1370-1408) Son. No surviving children.
7) Emperor Manuel II Palaiologos (1350-1425) Younger Son of John V.
8) Emperor John VIII Palaiologos (died 1448) Oldest Son. Childless.
9) Emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos (1405-1453) Younger Brother. Childless.
10) Desport Demetrios Palaiologos (died 1470) Younger Brother. No surviving children.
(Despot Thomas Palaiologos (1409/10?-1465) Youngest brother. Recognized imperial claimant)
11) Andreas Palaiologos (1453-1502) Older Son. Recognized claimant of the Empire.
12) Manuel Palaiologos (1455-before 1512) Younger Brother. Sold claim to Turkish Sultan.
13) Andreas Palaiologos (died after 1519) Younger Son. Converted to Islam.
(Helena Palaiologina (1431?-1473) Older daughter of Thomas Palaiologos. Married Despot Lazar Brankovich of Serbia)
(Jerina Brankovich, daughter of Despot Lazar Brankovich of Serbia and Helena Palaiologina (1431?-1473) the daughter of Despot Thomas Palaiologos (1409/10?-1465). Jerina Brnkovich was the sister of Milicia Brankovich, and it isn't known which sister was older. Jerina married Gjon Kastrioti (1456-1502 or before 1457-1516) Duke of San Pietro in Galatina, son of the Albanian national hero Skanderbeg)
14) Ferrante Scanderbegh Castriota Third Duke of San Pietro. Son
15) Erina Scanderbegh Castriota (died about 1568) Fourth Duchess of San Pietro. Daughter. Married Pietro Antonio Sansevervino 4th Prince of Bisignano.
16) Nicola Berardino Sanseverino (died 1606) 5th Prince of Bisignano. First Duke of San Pietro.
(Francesco Teodoro Sanseverino, (died 1595) 11th Count of Chiarmonte, Son. No Children)
(Vittoria di Sanseverino, daughter of Pietro Antonio Sanseverino. Married Ferndinando di Capua, 4th Duke of Termoli)
17) Pietro antonio di capua (born 1569) 5th Duke of Termoli. Son.
18) Ferndinando di Capua (1593-1623) 6th Duke of Termoli. Son.
19) Guilia di Capua (1514-1652) 7th Duchess of Termoli. Daughter. Married Andrea Francesca di Capua, Prince of Rocco Romano.
20) Antonio Francesco di Capua (died 1686) 8th duke of Termoli, Prince of Rocco Romano. Son.
21) Andrea di Capua (died 1697) 9th duke of Termoli, Prince of Rocco Romano. Son. Childless.
(Guilia di Capua (1668-?) 9th Duchess of Termoli. Sister. Married Girolamo Pignatelli, Prince of Marsiconovo)
22) Ippolita Pignatelli (1685-1709) 10th Duchess of Termoli, Countess of Anversa. Daughter. Married Vincenzo di Capua, Prince della Riccia.
23) Guilia di Capua (1701-1763) 12th Duchess of Termoli, Duchess of Anversa. Daughter. Married Domenico Cattaneo della Volta, 3rd Prince of San Nicandro.
24) Francesco Cattaneo della Volta (1721-1790) 4th Prince of San Nicandro. Son.
25) Augusto Cattaneo della Volta (1754-1824) 5th Prince of San Nicandro. Son.
26) Francesco Cattaneo della Volta (1774-1833) 6th Prince of San Nicandro. Son.
27) Mariano Augusto Cattaneo della Volta (1797-1860) 7th Prince of San Nicandro. Son.
28) Francesco Cattaneo della Volta (1844-1875) 8th Prince of San Nicandro. Son.
29) Mariano Augusto Cattaneo della Volta Paleologo (1869-1950) 9th Prince of San Nicandro. Son.
30) Ippolita Cattaneo della Volta Paleologo (1897-?) Princess and Duchess of Termoli. Daughter. Married Francesco Agapito Barberini (1898-1959).
31) Augusto Ippolito Clemente Barberini (1923-2005) Prince of Palestrina. Son.
32) Benedito Franceso Barberini (born 1961) Prince of Palestrina. Son.
 

MAGolding

Ad Honorem
Aug 2015
2,806
Chalfont, Pennsylvania
#99
Another descent from the Laskaris Emperors.

This is the previous version:

Heirs of Emperor Alexios III Angelos who ruled from 1195-1203.
1) Emperor Alexios III Angelos.
2) Anna Komnene Angelina (1175/80?-1212) Daughter. Married First Sebastokrator Isaac Komnenos (died soon after 1196).
3) Theodora Angelina Komnene. Daughter. Married Ivanko, a relative of Bulgarian Tsar Ivan Asen I. No known children.

Anna Komnene Angelina (1175/80?-1212) married Second Theodoros Komnenos Laskaris (1171/74?-1221) Emperor Theodore I Laskaris at Nicaea.
4) Irene Doukaina Komnene Laskarina (died 1239) Oldest? Daughter. Married First Despot Andronikos Palaiologos (died 1216?) No known children. Married second emperor John III Doukas Batatzes (1192?-1254).
5) Emperor Theodore II Doukas Laskaris (1221?-1258) Son.
6) Emperor Saint John IV Doukas Laskaris (1250-1305?) Deposed by Michael VIII Palaiologos. Childless.
7) Eudoxia Laskarina (1245/48-1311) 4th oldest sister. Wife of Count Guglielmo Pietro I of Ventimiglia and Tenda (1230-1283)
8) Jean de Lascaris, Count de ventemille, Son
9) Guillaume Pierrie II de Lascaris de Ventemille, Son.
10) Pierre Lascaris, Son.
11 Antoinio Lascaris, Son.
12) Onorato Lascaris (died 1475) Son.
13) Jean Antoine Lascaris (died 1509) Count of Tende, Son.
14) Anne Lascaris (1487-1554) Daughter & heiress, Wife of Rene of savoy ().
15) Claude, Count of Savoy-Tende (1507-1566) older son.
16) Anne of Savoy-Tende (after 1539-?) Daughter, wife of Enrico di Saluzzo di carde (died 1616)
17) Gicomo Francesco Saluzzo di carde (died 1623) son.
18) Diana Saluzzo di carde (died 1678) Daughter. Wife of Francesco Dal Pozzo.
19) Giacomo del Pozzo (1643-1696) Son.
20) Amadeo Alfonso del Pozzo (1662-1698) Son.
21) Alfonso del Pozzo (died by 1761) 3rd Prince della Cisterna. Son
22) (Guiseppi del Pozzo (1710-1754) son.)
23) Guiseppi del Pozzo (1748-1818) 4th Prince della Cisterna. Grandson
24) Carlo Emmanuele dal Pozzo (1787-1864) 5th Prince della Cisterna. Son.
25) Maria Vittoria dal Pozzo, Princess della Cisterna (1847-1876) Older daughter, wife of Amadeus I, Duke of Aosta (1845-1890), King of Spain from 1870-1873.
26) Prince Emmanuel Philiberto, Duke of Aosta (1869-1931. Oldest son.
27) Prince Amadeo, Duke of Aosta (1898-1942) Oldest Son.
28) Margherita of Savoy-Aosta (born 1930), Older Daughter. Widow of Archduke Robert (1915-1996) of Austria-Este, second son of Emperor Charles I.

her son and heir:
Prince Lorenz of Belgium, Archduke of Austria-Este (born 1955) Oldest Son.

However, some sources say that 17) Gicomo Francesco Saluzzo di carde (died 1623) had two daughters who married.

Heirs of Emperor Alexios III Angelos who ruled from 1195-1203.
1) Emperor Alexios III Angelos.
2) Anna Komnene Angelina (1175/80?-1212) Daughter. Married First Sebastokrator Isaac Komnenos (died soon after 1196).
3) Theodora Angelina Komnene. Daughter. Married Ivanko, a relative of Bulgarian Tsar Ivan Asen I. No known children.

Anna Komnene Angelina (1175/80?-1212) married Second Theodoros Komnenos Laskaris (1171/74?-1221) Emperor Theodore I Laskaris at Nicaea.
4) Irene Doukaina Komnene Laskarina (died 1239) Oldest? Daughter. Married First Despot Andronikos Palaiologos (died 1216?) No known children. Married second emperor John III Doukas Batatzes (1192?-1254).
5) Emperor Theodore II Doukas Laskaris (1221?-1258) Son.
6) Emperor Saint John IV Doukas Laskaris (1250-1305?) Deposed by Michael VIII Palaiologos. Childless.
7) Eudoxia Laskarina (1245/48-1311) 4th oldest sister. Wife of Count Guglielmo Pietro I of Ventimiglia and Tenda (1230-1283)
8) Jean de Lascaris, Count de ventemille, Son
9) Guillaume Pierrie II de Lascaris de Ventemille, Son.
10) Pierre Lascaris, Son.
11 Antoinio Lascaris, Son.
12) Onorato Lascaris (died 1475) Son.
13) Jean Antoine Lascaris (died 1509) Count of Tende, Son.
14) Anne Lascaris (1487-1554) Daughter & heiress, Wife of Rene of savoy ().
15) Claude, Count of Savoy-Tende (1507-1566) older son.
16) Anne of Savoy-Tende (after 1539-?) Daughter, wife of Enrico di Saluzzo di carde (died 1616)
17) Gicomo Francesco Saluzzo di carde (died 1623) son.
18) Beneditta Saluzzo di carde. Allegedly older daughter. Married Guilio Casere Roero.
19) Tommaso-Francesco Roero di Cortanze. Son.
20) Ercole Tomaso Roero di Cortanze (1661-1747). Son.
(Barbara Roero di Cortanze (1687-?) Daughter. Married her third cousin.21) Alfonso dal Pozzo in the previous verson.)
22) (Guiseppi del Pozzo (1710-1754) son.)
23) Guiseppi del Pozzo (1748-1818) 4th Prince della Cisterna. Grandson, son of Guiseppi del Pozzo.
24) Carlo Emmanuele dal Pozzo (1787-1864) 5th Prince della Cisterna. Son.
25) Maria Vittoria dal Pozzo, Princess della Cisterna (1847-1876) Older daughter, wife of Amadeus I, Duke of Aosta (1845-1890), King of Spain from 1870-1873.
26) Prince Emmanuel Philiberto, Duke of Aosta (1869-1931. Oldest son.
27) Prince Amadeo, Duke of Aosta (1898-1942) Oldest Son.
28) Margherita of Savoy-Aosta (born 1930), Older Daughter. Widow of Archduke Robert (1915-1996) of Austria-Este, second son of Emperor Charles I.

her son and heir:
Prince Lorenz of Belgium, Archduke of Austria-Este (born 1955) Oldest Son.
 
Dec 2011
1,321
Belgium
Our Lorenz?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Lorenz_of_Belgium,_Archduke_of_Austria-Este
I first thought that it was our famous and well known "Laurent":)...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Laurent_of_Belgium

BTW my head dazzles when I see all this genealogy...:)
It remembers me of the son of Louis XVI The Mystery of Louis XVII - HistoryWiz...and the Princes in the Tower...
On another English language forum I recently did some enquiry about Perkin Warbeck...the so-called heir of the throne, one of the princes in the tower:
"Read recently a novel from Terence Morgan: "The Shadow Prince" about Perkin Warbeck.
As I found it not historical convincing I did some research and ended with the "Princes in the Tower" which to seem a never ending evergreen in Britain...a bid as the son of Louis XVI: The Mystery of Louis XVII - HistoryWiz
I haven't read yet the never ending thread on this forum about the princes in the tower...where is Minette?...and will only do it when pressed by circumstances of this debate overhere
...
I even pretended that the author of the book made a lot of myth story...but there seems to be a core of evidence if you read the wiki.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkin_Warbeck
https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Prince-Terrence-Morgan/dp/0330543458
https://www.amazon.com/Terence-Morgan/e/B003D1TIEC
The Perkin Warbeck Rebellion - History Learning Site
England Under The Tudors: Perkin Warbeck (c.1474-1499)
Some other fictional novel à la Terence Morgan?
Uncovering the Mystery of Perkin Warbeck by Sandra Worth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_III_of_England
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princes_in_the_Tower

Kind regards, Paul.
 

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