Help me compile the fakes of history

May 2013
Planet Earth

Mediterranean coast of North Africa:
Queen Dido and her founding of Carthage

Iberian peninsula:

Founding of Rome by Aeneaus




Yu the Great and his founding of Xia
Last ruler of Xia, Jie, and his loss of Xia



May 2013
Planet Earth
Do you mean myths?
Yea basically myths. I'm mainly interested in the foundation myths. The ones that aren't so obvious as myths but are really myths in the end. For example Carthage was real but the founding of it by Queen Dido would be wrong because historians have accounted for Dido as a transformation of a goddess to a normal human.

The oxhide story which explains the name of the hill must be of Greek origin since Byrsa means "oxhide" in Greek, not in Punic. The name of the hill in Punic was probably just a derivation from Semitic brt "fortified place". But that does not prevent other details in the story from being Carthaginian tradition though still not necessarily historical. Michael Grant in Roman Myths (1973) claims:
"That is to say, Dido-Elissa was originally a goddess." It has been conjectured that she was first converted from a goddess into a human queen in some Greek work of the later 5th century BC. But others conjecture that Dido was indeed historical, as described in the following accounts.
It is not known who first combined the story of Dido with the tradition that connected Aeneas either with Rome or with earlier settlements from which Rome traced its origin.
A fragment of an epic poem by Gnaeus Naevius who died at Utica in 201 BC includes a passage which might or might not be part of a conversation between Aeneas and Dido. Servius in his commentary (4.682; 5.4) cites Varro (1st century BC ) for a version in which Dido's sister Anna killed herself for love of Aeneas.
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Forum Staff
Oct 2011
Italy, Lago Maggiore
Recent myth from UK

Newton and his apple.

Historians today tend to consider this a fake tale [made popular by Voltaire]: probably it was Newton's niece, Catherine Conduitt, to invent it.

Nero and the lira.

Nero wasn't playing lira in Rome while the city was burning, simply because he wasn't in Rome.

July 4th

even if the Americans celebrate the independence of July 4th, the declaration had signed on July 2nd ... [Adams proposed July 2nd as official date, but it was in vain].


Ad Honorem
Jan 2013
The myth of Prester John, a Christian King reigning over a kingdom surrounded by Muslim lands. This myth was popular from around the 13th to 17th centuries.

The Myth of Prester John

The "myth" of the Northwest passage. This myth ultimately lead to the death of hundreds of explorers attempting to find a northern route between the Atlantic and Pacific. The passage is in fact only navigable at the height of summer and in unexpectedly mild years. As a trade route it would be worthless.
Jul 2011
The average Dutchman believes that the German forces in the Netherlands surrendered on the 5th of May 1945.

On this date the commander of the German forces in the Netherlands was summoned to the town of Wageningen to discus the surrender. He asked for 24 hours to consider the terms. The actual surrender was signed on the 6th of May
Sep 2011
Lycurgus of Sparta, it is not known if he is a myth or was a actually real person, so maybe not best for this thread but I thought it may interest you. [ame=]Lycurgus of Sparta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


Ad Honorem
Feb 2013
portland maine
Hans Van Meegeran spent WW2 in relative luxory by selling forged paintings, especially Vermeers to senior Nazi officials.
Jul 2011
the donation of Constantine I

[ame=]Donation of Constantine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]