history of Indian dating system

Mar 2019
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Al-beruni was in somewhere in Sindh (Pakistan) when writing the tradition that Guptas were '"wicked and powerful". This was the area occupied by many foreign tribes, which were forced to pay tribute by Samudragupta (c. 335/350 to c.375 CE ) and finally annihilated by Chandragupta-II (375-415 CE).

'Brihatkathamanjari' of Kshemendra say King Vikramaditya (Chandragupta II) had "unburdened the sacred earth of the Barbarians like the Sakas, Mlecchas, Kambojas, Yavanas, Tusharas, Parasikas, Hunas, and others, by annihilating these sinful Mlecchas completely".

After this time, we don't hear of these tribes in Indian history - except Kambhojas and Hunas. Hunas were pushed to Kashmir but after some time their kingship also ended.

So it is okay for people of Sindh to say that Guptas were wicked and powerful. Fahien has neither not named any king nor commented on them. He has described the country & people & their habits in Madhya-desha. The society was orderly & peaceful.
yeah it seems to make sense, reading on some gupta history else where, i came to know that they were known for making campaigns against tribalism in the north western regions of punjab and sindh.

even today sindh is practically ruled by baloch tribes who are originally not from sindh but ruling and living here for hundreds of years, balochs are also mentioned by name by varahamihira as foreigners/mlecchas. These tribes are of extreme feudal mentality and hinder development and rule lands like fiefdoms. i have also read about Paratarajas - Wikipedia ruling areas of sindh and balochistan who were iranic. Balochs must be their descendants.

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Barli Inscription - Wikipedia

Earlier scholars assigned the Barli inscription to the pre-Ashoka period, but more recent scholars have assigned it to a later date.[1]
According to historian G. H. Ojha, who discovered the inscription in 1912, the inscription contains the line Viraya Bhagavate chaturasiti vase, which can be interpreted as "dedicated to Lord Vira in his 84th year". Based on this reading, Ojha concluded that the record was inscribed in 443 BCE (year 84 of the Vira Nirvana Samvat), 84 years after the death of the Jain leader Mahavira.[2] K. P. Jayaswal disagreed with Ojha's interpretation, but nevertheless assigned the inscription to a pre-Ashoka period: he dated it to 374-373 BCE, equivalent to the year 84 of an imaginary calendar era.[3]
there are some evidences that there were inscriptions and dating even before the mauryas and it wont be hard to understand why.

some indian historians have revised the dating and there has been a lot of revisionism based on colonial machinery left behind by the british and archaeological survey of india and britain proper but i think these evidences do point to an earlier period of dating system and inscriptions.

One thing is definitely clear that indians did date events rigorously atleast from the mahajanapada periods.
 

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