History of Macedonia

Jan 2008
36
Varkiza-Athens GREECE
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ANCIENT HISTORY OF MACEDONIA
Macedonia is a Greek region,in the north of Greece.The most important cities of Macedonia is Thessaloniki, Kavala, Seres, Drama, Edessa, Florina, Katerini and many more.
Its a Greek region since the beginning of time. Macedon son of Zeus and Thias daughter of Deukalion was the founder of Macedonia(Stef.Byzantios about "Macedonia") or according to Diodoros (I 18, 20) Macedon was the son of Wind God Aeolos finally according to Apolodoros (III 8,1) Macedon or Macednos was the son of King Lykaon of Arcadia.

Herodotus a famous ancient historian saies that the Macedonian nation was a Dorian Green nation that moved from Thessaly(Esteotida region) went in the Pindos mountains in west macedonia. So from all these evidence we understand that the founder of the royal Macedonian house came from Argos and was a desendant of Hercules. And the Kings graves founded in Vergina are the witnesses for this , but and in the whole Macedonia thousands of ancient items founded having Greek signs on them.
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All ancient historians wrote that Macedonians were part of the Greek nation, as also were Spartans, Athenians, Cretans, Corinthians, Arcadian and tens of other tribes, members of the Greek Nation.
Ancient Macedonians were spoken the Greek language , wrote in Greek language, worshiped Greek Gods of Olympus, (ZEUS, MERCURY, APHRODITE, DIANA, ATHENA etc), and were DORIES one of the four main Greek tribes ( the other two were ACHIEOI, ION-ES, and AIOLEIS).

The name Macedonians come from the Greek word MAKEDNOS which means TALL MAN,and if all these are not enough evidents of the Hellenic(Greek) nationality of Macedonians I will tell you an old story.
2343 years ago Great King PHILIP THE SECOND(359-336 b.c) King of Macedonia and General Emperor of all Greece began preparations to avenge Persian invasion by setting free at first all Greek cities of Asia minor from Persian occupation, and then by attacking them in their own country. A paied by Persian money assasin killed him before making his dream come true,and his son ALEXANDER THE GREAT (ISKANDER EL AHBAR FOR ALL THE ARAB WORLD) made this dream come true. By the Aegean sea in 334 b.c he utterly beat the Persian armies in the battle of Granikos and he set free all of ASIA MINOR.

Then like a storm took Syria, Egypt, Libya, Palestine, and then Persia and all Asia until the border of India and China. After his Death(we Greeks never truly believe that he is dead because our Grandmothers told as a story we we were kids that HE LIVES AND RULES AND CONQUERS THE WORLD off course this is a fairy tale but indicates love of Greek people to the Great King-we never forgot him! ), the HELLENISTIC MONARCHIES were created

1.The KINGDOM OF MACEDONIA AND SOUTHERN GREECE
2.THE KINGDOM OF SELEYKIDON IN ASIA
3.THE KINGDOM OF PTOLEMIES IN EGYPT AND AFRICA
4.THE KINGDOM OF PERGAMON IN ASIA MINOR
Romans a Greek tribe coming from Troy, occupied Macedonia, southern Greece, and Greek (Hellenistic) States of the East in the year 30 b.c where the last Greek state Egypt fall.

But metropolitan Greek culture was too strong so Romans soon started to himitate the metropolitan Greek culture,speaking the Greek dialects and not Latin (a Chalkidean dialect) and regaining their lost from the distance from Greece Hellenic identity.

BYZANTINE YEARS
(MIDDLE AGES)
Slowly the Roman Empire turned into the Greek Byzantine Empire and the capital transfered from Rome to the Greek city Vizantio renamed Constantinople.
All these year,and during all ages no one claimed rights on Macedonia accept its own people, until in the 6th and the 7th century and after the Imperial forces had thrown away Hans, and Goths, tribes named SLAVS and BULGARIANS attacked the border of Danube, these tribes were so barbaric and uncivilized that their King KRUMOS when defeated Emperor NIKHFOROS THE FIRST he cut off his head and made a cup of his scull
and used to drink his wine in it!

After many battles,destructions of Greek cities, millions of Greek people dead or enslaved Great Emperor VASILEIOS B' also named BULGARIAN KILLER finally managed to defeat the Slavobulgaric hord and throw them away from the sacred land of Macedonia and other Greece in year 1014 a.c. in the battle of CLEIDION.
But Bulgarians and other Slavs were permanently created states inside the Balkan peninsula in the ancient territories of ANO MYSIA (BULGARIA)and DARDANIA (SCOPIA)then Macedonia became the border between the Greek Empire and the Slavobulgaric States.

THE SLAVOBULGARIC THREAT OVER MACEDONIA IN MODERN TIMES
The Slavobulgaric threat over Macedonia started in the end of the 19th century after the foundation of the modern BULGARIA state and the occupation of ANATOLIKH ROMY LIA(north THRACE) a Greek territory with Greek population that were all killed or came in the Southern Greece as refuges.
Ancient Greek cities were destroyed then by Bulgaric hords Stenimaxos, Pyrgos, Pillipoupoli, Varna and many more. But they wanted more,after North Thrace they started TERRORISM against the Greek population of Macedonia by their Terrorist Gangs named KOMITATZIDES, and by killing, raping, burning, and blackmailing, they tried to take Macedonia too.
But the Brave Macedonians, and other Greeks and especially Cretans decided that we had had enough.That way began the Macedonian Fight between native Macedonian-Greeks and KOMITATZIDES and OTTOMAN authorities from the other side.
The battle was won and in year 1912-13 the Greek Armies with KING KONSTANTIN OS IB set free almost all Macedonia by defeating first OTHOMAN TURKS and then Bulgarians, except a small part in the North Macedonia occupied until today by the "state of Skopia" and Bulgaria and his population is still Greek or VLAXOI with Greek conscious.

During German and Italian occupation of Greece at world war two, their allies Bulgarians, occupied parts of Greek territory, West Thrace and East and Central Macedonia. An orgy of killings, and destruction and all kinds of terror began, a small example is the genocide of the people of DOXATO in DRAMA region of Macedonia, where they murder all 4000 citizens of the village.
The "Macedonian problem" in the late 19th and early 20th centurie was the Greek-Bulgarian conflict for the occupied by the Turks Greek providence Macedonia. They were fighting the Greeks to set Macedonia free, and Bulgaria to succes the Turks.

This problem came to an end by the Victorious march of the Greek army in the Balkan wars of 1912-13, that set free almost all historical Macedonia territories. The new version of Macedonian problem started at the middle 20th century when Marchall Tito of Yugoslavia and Stalin dictator of Russia wanted a way out to Aegean sea and the very important port of Salonika.
For that reason they renamed "Vardaska"(one of the six states of Yugoslavia), to "Macedonia". By that action they created a Falsemacedonian state in order to claim rights in true Greek Macedonia!

By that action they try to convince the international comunity that they are the true Macedonian state and that Greece occupies "South Macedonia" which is the true,one and only Macedonia and it is the heart of Greece since King Philip B united all Greece in one union.

THE HYMN OF MACEDONIA

Macedonia famous!
Alexander's country!
You turned away barbarians and you are now free!
You were and will be Greek, Greeks pride and we will admire you, free again!
Macedonians cant leave in slavery, if all they loose, their freedom remains.
They will never take the land of Macedonians, the Greek land,
the wonder of all centuries.

Analyses
The "Hymn of Macedonia" is a very popular hymn amongst all Hellenes(Greeks), and in a few words demonstrates the glory of Macedonia, the divotion to the loving memory to the Greatest of all Greeks King Alexander and the struggle against the barbarians that trying through the centuries to occupie that holy ground.
It declairs the Hellenic identity of Macedonia and more, that Macedonia is the leading force among all Hellenic territories.
It declaires the one and only virtue that every true Hellenas would die for: FREEDOM and the desision never to accept slavery.
Final comes the desicion never to surrender that holy ground...

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Belisarius

Forum Staff
Jun 2006
10,359
U.K.
#2
The Macedonian question is an extremely contentious issue. The above post summarises only one part of the debate, and I’ve seen similar threads elsewhere rapidly degenerate into venomous flame wars. All I’m saying here is lets just keep it civilised.
 
Jan 2008
36
Varkiza-Athens GREECE
#3
What do you mean mister "Belisarius" by <<keep it civiliced?>>, it is very convinient insult people using a face name.

All I writte here is the Hymn of Macedonia as a Macedonian Iam! And you tell me about my side, your side and the side of the truth...Well the truth is only one, MACEDONIA of Alexander the Great, Aristotle and Philip II was, is and will forever be Greek.

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Jan 2008
36
Varkiza-Athens GREECE
#4
I forgot to ask you mr."Belisarius", to bring me some historical facts, as a historian you say you are to proove what you said before.

I wrotte a big text above what chronological order, names, places and sources in foreign language!

I dont dare you to writte in Greek, which is not your language although you use our General Belisarius name (the greatest general of OUR EMPEROR of OUR BYZANTINE EMPIRE JUSTINIAN), but in English and bring me some evidence from the other side(as you saied) of the debate.
 

Lucius

Forum Staff
Jan 2007
16,363
Nebraska
#5
With respect to all, I think, "keep it civiliced" was directed to those who might answer the first post, not to the first post itself.
 

Belisarius

Forum Staff
Jun 2006
10,359
U.K.
#6
Thank you Lucius. The preceding posts clearly demonstrate what I&#8217;ve said earlier.

George, welcome to the forum. I have no doubts that you are well aware of the controversy surrounding Macedonia. I respect your opinion, but have absolutely no intention of being drawn into the controversy myself.

As a forum Moderator I will keep a passing eye on this thread and take whatever action that may become necessary, should matters get out of hand.
 
Jul 2006
1,315
Hellas
#7
The Macedonian question is an extremely contentious issue. The above post summarises only one part of the debate, and I&#8217;ve seen similar threads elsewhere rapidly degenerate into venomous flame wars. All I&#8217;m saying here is lets just keep it civilised.
Dear Belisarius, the other part that you mention is constructed. And don't worry Greece is a civilised place that had teached to the rest of the world the meaning of civilised conversation. Proud we continue it.

Welcome George. Kalosirthes (and in Greek).
 
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Afrasiyab

Ad Honorem
Sep 2007
6,378
#8
Giorgaki: Its a Greek region since the beginning of time.

AH, don't you think that this is a little bit "fairy tale"? it sounds like you ll end your article with:

AND THEY LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER.
 

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