Hitler and religion

Jan 2015
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Ontario, Canada
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He was raised Catholic but after 1920 stopped being a practicing Catholic. Other than state events he didn't attend mass for example.

His personal beliefs gradually moved away from the Catholic church and organized religion. He understood religion more as a cultural or social institution rather than an inherent religious truth. But he didn't quite make the leap towards atheism. He was some kind of deist or pantheist and believed in the inherent power of "nature" which to him governed Human affairs on a fundamental level. More so than laws, politics or society.

No idea why some people think that Hitler was Pagan or that Nazism was Pagan. That is total nonsense.
 
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pugsville

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Oct 2010
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Larrey

Ad Honorem
Sep 2011
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As usual the problem with German Nazism is that it wasn't terribly internally consistent.

Himmler certainly had the SS get up to some very unorthodox religious inventions.

But overall I think the Nazi party attitude to traditional religion can be viewed in how it assigned a role for women in Nazi society as the three K:s:
"Kinder, Kirche, Küche", kids, church, kitchen.
 
Jan 2015
5,427
Ontario, Canada
#6
But there was a element of the Nazi movement that was enamored with some sort of occult/pagan/mysticism that Hitler at least gave a pass to, even if he has no truck with himself.

It's not total nonsense there is a nub of truth to it.

Heinrich Himmler - Wikipedia

Religious aspects of Nazism - Wikipedia

Thule Society - Wikipedia
The Thule Society was purposely disbanded by Hitler. He didn't want the Thule society to compete or exist outside of the party. The Thule Society was an early source of funding for NSDAP.

Himmler wasn't a Pagan or Occultist, he just really resented Christianity. But he was brought up Catholic and preferred the institutional strength of Catholicism over the rebellious streak of Protestantism.
He also regarded Occultism and Paganism in the same way that Hitler saw Catholicism. Himmler did not actually believe in Occultism and Paganism. Heck I mean Himmler also had interests in Hinduism and Buddhism, but he was not a believer in those either.
 
Jan 2015
5,427
Ontario, Canada
#7
Thank you very much.In France,the marshall Pétain was recognized by all the bishops.Hitler was he recognized by all the "bishoffen".
The relationship between Catholicism and Nazism was complex to say the least. It was not as cordial as Franco or Mussolini but it was not outright anti-Catholic. Though the Nazis did take steps to limit Catholic power within Germany and also to purge Catholics who opposed their agenda. Generally it was somewhat of a neutral stance although Hitler resented the temporal power of Catholicism.

On the other hand Hitler did seek Catholic support and held a few Catholic events (a particular mass sponsored by the state, for instance the ceremony in Berlin after the death of Pilsudski). Cardinal Innitzer was pro-NSDAP where as Cardinal von Gallen was anti-NSDAP. The Pope adopted a hands off approach but that says more about Catholicism in the 20th century. They did sign a concordat in 1933 however Hitler was resentful of the influence which the church exercised politically and over society. The Pope did not have as much direct power and so various cardinals and bishops exercised their own influence within their local churches.
 

Futurist

Ad Honoris
May 2014
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#10
He was raised Catholic but after 1920 stopped being a practicing Catholic. Other than state events he didn't attend mass for example.

His personal beliefs gradually moved away from the Catholic church and organized religion. He understood religion more as a cultural or social institution rather than an inherent religious truth. But he didn't quite make the leap towards atheism. He was some kind of deist or pantheist and believed in the inherent power of "nature" which to him governed Human affairs on a fundamental level. More so than laws, politics or society.

No idea why some people think that Hitler was Pagan or that Nazism was Pagan. That is total nonsense.
Hitler was also a believer in Providence--in part as a result of him surviving various assassination attempts.
 
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