Having full knowledge of an assination plot against Hitler and allowing it to go ahead and having secret meetings with Hitler's opponents as early as 43 doesn't sound like loyalty to me.I agree with these guys, Himmler would take power. Himmler thought about overthrowing Hitler but he found himself to be too loyal.
I agree with these guys, Himmler would take power. Himmler thought about overthrowing Hitler but he found himself to be too loyal.
I think that it is less a question of guts than imagination. Himmler was the supreme bureaucrat and, to be fair, a very capable one at that. He was talking to the allies as early as 1943 (though I think this was part of a back-channel dialogue that had many contributers and had always been in existence) but these discussions, so far as I'm aware, were generally designed with the Fuhrer's knowledge to bring about material resource benefits. The so-called 'sale of Jews' through a British intermediary in Egypt (?) was to provide the Reich with trucks. The discussions were never fully initiated because the British refused to be drawn-in. Himmler was not acting disloyally; rather, there were pragmatic reasons for attempting such a move.Having full knowledge of an assination plot against Hitler and allowing it to go ahead and having secret meetings with Hitler's opponents as early as 43 doesn't sound like loyalty to me.
Himmler's trouble was he was the one person who really could have successfully killed Hitler, had the resources but lacked the guts to try.
Although I have just noted (okay, asserted) above that the Third Reich would've collapsed, this is an intriguing thought. If we consider that Hitler was presented to the German people as a messianic symbol throughout the Nazi era, this idea holds a large degree of cogency. In fact, I think we can safely state that the image of Hitler as the new messiah was quite explicitly proselytised during the years of peace. The mechanics for the diffusion of the symbolic Hitler were in place and brought under the control of the regime. It is clear that the majority of the wider population, whether or not the symbol was inferred or not, did not explicitly respond to this symbol. Instead, Hitler was viewed in peacetime under numerous identities, as Kershaw clearly sets out, but does not at any time appear to have been viewed as a messianic figure by the German majority.Germany would continue fighting, perhaps even harder than before to avenge the fallen Führer.
Your rejection of a time-locked generalisation is quite correct.I think it all depends on when Hitler was assasinated. If Hitler was killed in the begining, perhaps by a smart young man who saw what horrors were inside Hitler's head, the NAZI party may have never taken off.
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