How and Why Armenia and Georgia not Arabize/Islamize

Sep 2015
23
Alexandria Borealis
#21
I see that this topic has become a one more Russophobic hysteria )))

Communist countries always get away with human rights violations.
Firstly, Communist countries don't exist in nature. Secondly, non-socialist countries violate human rights no less.
Officially recognized in your dreams, lol.
14.11.1989 - Declaration of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union "About of recognition of illegal and criminal repressive acts against the peoples who have been forcibly displaced, and to ensure their rights".
26.04.1991 - Law "About the rehabilitation of repressed peoples".
Traditional Russian policy through history has always been to invade, slaughter & deport the native population to Siberia and then claim the land as the "historical territory" of Russia.
Traditional Russophobic myth.
 
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Sep 2015
23
Alexandria Borealis
#22
- On 9 July 1783, Russia annexed Crimea. 30,000 people were tortured to death and their properties were seized. During this period, 1.5 million Tatars were living in Crimea. More than half of this number died due to starvation, disease and massacres.
It will be another off-top, but I'll comment it.
I don't know how reliable these figures and circumstances. Can you specify your sources? On the other hand it's known that the Crimean Khanate about two centuries regularly ravage the Russian lands (and not vice versa). Moreover, the economy of the Crimean khanate was based on the slave trade, and this parasite state was "asked" for it to be destroyed. So, please give the number of Russian people who was killed, died of starvation and was sold into slavery (it says that in the Crimea had been sold about 3 million people), and match it (if you want to be objective).
 
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Mar 2014
121
San Mateo County, California, USA.
#23
This Thread is about the preservation of the Armenian and Georgian national identities, it's not about whether atrocities were perpetrated against Turks, or any denial rhetoric that questions the legal definition of the Armenian Genocide.

"Denial ... is actually a continuation of the genocide, because it is a continuing attempt to destroy the victim group psychologically and culturally, to deny its members even the memory of the murders of their relatives."

http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutus/thecostofdenial.html
 
Mar 2014
121
San Mateo County, California, USA.
#24
wow so Armenians just got back in return for all that they did. Do they recognise the genocides they perpetuated before asking others to do the same for them? Why is no pressure put on them for this?

Why are Russia (for all these genocides) and China (for Dzungaria) not ever pulled up internationally for these acts? Communist countries always get away with human rights violations.
WOW! How in carnation did you get that idea? Did you buy that nonsense, hook, line and sink, without even investigating the Armenian viewpoint? There is an information war here, and the information provided isn't always trustworthy.

Please quote one of your reference sources, or a link, because you're wrong. So many times otherwise compassionate intelligent people have been duped by it. Turkey and Azerbaijan are wealthier countries, and their governments have invested more money into the information war.
 
Nov 2012
3,848
#25
WOW! How in carnation did you get that idea? Did you buy that nonsense, hook, line and sink, without even investigating the Armenian viewpoint? There is an information war here, and the information provided isn't always trustworthy.

Please quote one of your reference sources, or a link, because you're wrong. So many times otherwise compassionate intelligent people have been duped by it. Turkey and Azerbaijan are wealthier countries, and their governments have invested more money into the information war.
Large parts of Armenian majority areas were in modern Turkish Kurdistan.
 
Mar 2014
121
San Mateo County, California, USA.
#26
HISTORICAL TRUTH AGAINST TURKISH AND AZERBAIJANI FALSIFICATIONS IN INFORMATION WARFARE - Western Armenia TV Western Armenia TV

"More than five millennia-old ethno-spiritual, political and cultural roots of the Armenian statehood in the Armenian Highland are attested to by the archaeological and architectural monuments, petroglyphs, cuneiform, ancient and medieval written and other historic sources. Historical truth is the backbone and informational defensive shield of the national security of Armenia."

"Turkey and Azerbaijan use different types of disinformation and manipulations in information warfare, being unable to overcome the truths about the past and the present of the Armenian nation, the Republic of Armenia and the Artsakh Republic ... Turkish and Azerbaijani deceptive methods with a stillborn outcome are crushed against the strongholds of Armenia’s history and the civilizational value system."

"Turkish falsifiers distort and eradicate Armenian geographical terms and toponyms, 'plagiarize' concepts that have no relation to their nomadic predatory past (which is full of the blood of millions of innocent victims), thus putting into circulation a fake 'concept' ..."

Gagik Ter-Harutyunyan noted: “Analysis of information flows give the impression that the Azerbaijani structures waging information warfare get certain, in particular methodological support of the specialists from Turkey and other ally states of Azerbaijan. It is also not excluded the participation of experts of big energy companies based in this country in information operations against the NKR: the latter ones are known to be well experienced in carrying out information operations. This circumstance is an important element to give a right estimation to Azerbaijan’s information resources and is to be a subject of more detailed study.”
 
Mar 2014
121
San Mateo County, California, USA.
#27
Large parts of Armenian majority areas were in modern Turkish Kurdistan.
That's True: Kurds weren't a unified faction, a century ago, many of them protecting Armenians, while most of them attacked them. Those whom attacked Armenians worked in in the capacity of Robber Barons, for the Ottoman Empire.

"In 1893, some three to four thousand nomadic Kurds from the Diyarbakır plains entered Sason region. This incursion of nomads, who customarily used the mountain meadows of the area in summer for their herds, was harmful to the sedentary Armenians. The Kurds were responsible for bringing economic ruin to the agrarian community of the Armenian villagers: they would steal livestock and demand that the Armenians should pay a second tax (that is, a separate tax in addition to the one Armenians paid to the Ottoman government). When Armenians decided to challenge Kurdish extortion, a fight ensued and a Kurd was killed. Using the Kurd's death as a pretext by describing that a revolt had taken place, Turkish officials endorsed a Kurdish attack against the Armenians of Sason."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sason
 
Mar 2016
711
Antalya
#30
Firstly, Communist countries don't exist in nature. Secondly, non-socialist countries violate human rights no less.
Ants, Bees, pretty much most of bug colonies are fundamentally communists. There are even bacteria colonies functioning like communist societies. Human biological system is communist as well, if you go too abstract :>
 

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