How is Cuba still standing?

Wenge

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Apr 2011
10,429
Virginia
But Cuban communism is so-oo cool. Those khaki fatigues, clouds of cigar smoke, rum, coke and lime juice on the terrace of an old crumbling Spanish colonial building where Hemmingway got pissed out of his mind; jinteras and socialist salsa emerging as the sun is dipping down over Havana Bay. Beats cabbage stew, six months of snow, rusty tractors, little red books and women who looked like Kruschchev in a wig, doesn't it?
Those are not fatigues, those are Utilities. United States Marine Corps terminology.
 

Ancientgeezer

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Nov 2011
8,899
The Dustbin, formerly, Garden of England
Those are not fatigues, those are Utilities. United States Marine Corps terminology.
In his latter years, Castro's "utilities" were made by Meyer & Mortimer of Savile Row--est, about £7000 per uniform (and that's twenty years ago).
 

royal744

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Jul 2013
10,757
San Antonio, Tx
Not to disparage your comment but the story is much broader..


I am stunned...You guys must get all your information from CNN or FOXNews, Your comments reflect the very narrow American point of view, (America=good, Cuba=bad.)

There is the historical element. Ever hear of Fulgencio Batista? or the dictators that preceded him?

Have you studied the Spanish War?

Afterward 1899 the governments were hand-picked by US interests.

Watch Godfather II. Although it was fictional it mimicked an actual event.. There really was a solid gold telephone.


These interests want reparations adjusted for inflation and this is what stands in the way of normalization..

However, it was their wholesale exploitation that was impoverishing the population and ultimately caused the revolution. By throwing the Americans out, there was absolutely middle ground for compromise and there isn't today.

The Cubans living today in Florida were heirs to huge Spanish land grants. They entered into partnership with American companies and they left the country with their bank accounts. It was this group that were a main force to organize the ill-fated Bay of Pigs invasion along with Allan Dulles and the CIA.

I don't support communism but I can't support hypocrisy.
You're right, Larkin. Before the revolution, Cuba was a really bad, mafia-ridden place. Almost anything other than the lapdog dictators who "ruled" the island would have been (and were) better.
 

notgivenaway

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Jun 2015
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UK
The Cold War ended, and the USA whilst still buying it had other issues like Al Qaeda, the great recession, etc.

I think the Castros both realised the game is up, hence the change from hardline communism. I think had Castro elder (Fidel) been healthy enough to continue, he would have done this himself before he died. Castro younger (Raul) may well stand in a democratic election soon, who knows?
 

Tulius

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May 2016
6,148
Portugal
This is really a new tread raise after some 4 years!

I don’t go to Cuba for ages (Fidel was alive and well the last time), but what I saw there is quite contrary to what I see written here in some posts.

I saw here written that is an isolated country… in political terms that is correct, but it is pretty easy to travel to there from many counties in the world. Don’t know if there is already flights from the USA, but the USA were the most notable exception.

The tourism has a huge weight in the economy, as far as I know was the first revenue source at the time and still is, and there were investments from Canada and Spain there. As for tourists, I didn’t saw US Americans there. Many Canadians, Spanish and Portuguese. Some Germans, French, Chileans and… curiously… Puertorriqueños… and many more nationalities that I can’t recall.

A previous poster said that there isn’t prostitution there. Well, in Havana, and in other places I didn’t saw it, but in Varadero… we could see it, and there were some arrests.

Many of the people seemed poor, but not in a miserable state that we see in other countries. The health system is universal and works quite well. There was at the time some rancour to the USA embargo.

The clime is excellent, the water is warm, the people are friendly, the food is tasty, the music outstanding, the culture impressive, the hotels are good. In short: If we forget the politics, it is an excellent place for vacations!
 

LatinoEuropa

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Oct 2015
5,222
Matosinhos Portugal
Cuba is a great country talking about Cuba
when Cuba is a democratic country, a lot will change, first the population will have a better standard of living but it will have its costs.
with corruption, politicians, administrators, judges of lawyers, etc. And the parasites will make laws in their favor.

I have a real example from my country.Portugal dictatorship, democratic Portugal big big difference my country is stolen every day, for 43 years have not stopped because Portuguese laws are made by them is a real example of my country, should not be the only country in Europe.

In my opinion is what will happen to Cuba.
 

Naomasa298

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Apr 2010
35,488
T'Republic of Yorkshire
This is really a new tread raise after some 4 years!

I don’t go to Cuba for ages (Fidel was alive and well the last time), but what I saw there is quite contrary to what I see written here in some posts.

I saw here written that is an isolated country… in political terms that is correct, but it is pretty easy to travel to there from many counties in the world. Don’t know if there is already flights from the USA, but the USA were the most notable exception.

The tourism has a huge weight in the economy, as far as I know was the first revenue source at the time and still is, and there were investments from Canada and Spain there. As for tourists, I didn’t saw US Americans there. Many Canadians, Spanish and Portuguese. Some Germans, French, Chileans and… curiously… Puertorriqueños… and many more nationalities that I can’t recall.

A previous poster said that there isn’t prostitution there. Well, in Havana, and in other places I didn’t saw it, but in Varadero… we could see it, and there were some arrests.

Many of the people seemed poor, but not in a miserable state that we see in other countries. The health system is universal and works quite well. There was at the time some rancour to the USA embargo.

The clime is excellent, the water is warm, the people are friendly, the food is tasty, the music outstanding, the culture impressive, the hotels are good. In short: If we forget the politics, it is an excellent place for vacations!
Thank you for this. Interesting to read from someone who's actually been there.
 

SirOrmondeWinter

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Dec 2011
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Thank you for this. Interesting to read from someone who's actually been there.
That actually might be the solution, life on a tropical island under communism is obviously better than life in the cold of Eastern Europe, especially with the Cuban Americans sending money back to their families.