How is Cuba still standing?

Edratman

Forum Staff
Feb 2009
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Eastern PA
I think these days there is progress and optimism about the future in Cuba but depressingly enough the future will see corruption and crime as the country moves from its socialist principles to more freedoms and private ventures. I haven't been there for a while (I collect Cuban posters so have an interest) but I see some of the Cuban agencies such as OSPAAAL being less and less influential on the world stage and as socialism in its rawest form fails in country after country (Venezuela being the prime example)
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royal744

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Jul 2013
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The United States is the main perpetrator of the embargo.

Credit must be given to Castro. He has kept the country afloat for 50 years, while it is not a superpower and there are instances of severe poverty. Cuba is not in as terrible shape as it could be.

Also, consideration must be given to the island. Cuba is able to produce more than say a North Korea. Also, the United States is really the only place that has a harsh embargo on Cuba. Places in South America are very large trade partners. Also I know there is a big tourism industry with tourists from Europe and Canada.
Lots of Americans travel to Cuba each year.
 

Theodoric

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Mar 2012
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Cuba isn’t socialist, they’re a command economy - much more in common with a social democracy where a central government is granted extra power over distribution, wage policy, and regulation. Ownership of the means of production in a social democracy is in the hands of a government that represents the people. An example of a mixed social democracy capitalist economy is the US and most western nations.

Socialism decentralizes the power and puts ownership of the means of production in the hands of the working class. Unions (not government) are responsible for determining any sort of wage or other form of regulation. In socialist nations, wage regulation by the government would be seen as an overstep. This is also true in the Scandinavian model mixed economies; that are capitalist in nature but incorporate socialist and social democratic elements.

Edit: I may be wrong about Cuba. I read an article that says since 1991 they have been shifting toward a decentralized union based structure. So Cuba in more recent times may actually be turning into a real socialist nation.
 
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betgo

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Jul 2011
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Yeh, they don't want to admit defeat, the elite doesn't want to lose control, and they don't want to be dominated by the US again.

They seem to have twice gone out of the frying pan into the fire. They went from Spanish rule to US dominated independence and then to Communism with foreign domination for a while and the destruction of the economy.

Before Castro, US corporations and the mafia dominated Cuba in a way that wouldn't be possible if it were under direct US rule or really independent. They could influence both the Cuban government and the US government behind the scenes.
 

Code Blue

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Feb 2015
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How is Cuba still standing?

What country isn't still standing? Even the ones flattened by the US are put back up.