How many unemployed people were shot and killed in the Soviet Russia?

Dir

Nov 2015
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The Moscow authorities wanted everyone in the Land of Soviets to work for the state. And in the late 1930, they exterminated almost all Ukrainian lyres and bandura players. These are blind wandering musicians, accompanied usually by an orphan boy. They sang in the Ukrainian villages old legends about the former Cossack glory and different spiritual songs . In 1930, the Bolshevik authorities gathered them all together in Kharkov for a congress of kobzars. And after the congress, no one had seen them.

The well-known Soviet composer Shostakovich who at that time communicated a lot with the Moscow authorities, in his memoirs reported that these lyres and bandura players were shot.
 

Maribat

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The Moscow authorities wanted everyone in the Land of Soviets to work for the state. And in the late 1930, they exterminated almost all Ukrainian lyres and bandura players. These are blind wandering musicians, accompanied usually by an orphan boy. They sang in the Ukrainian villages old legends about the former Cossack glory and different spiritual songs . In 1930, the Bolshevik authorities gathered them all together in Kharkov for a congress of kobzars. And after the congress, no one had seen them.

The well-known Soviet composer Shostakovich who at that time communicated a lot with the Moscow authorities, in his memoirs reported that these lyres and bandura players were shot.
Any documentary evidence?
 
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Any documentary evidence?
Don't doubt. Now he is busy fabrikating them. Btw, they have horrible phantasy in Canada: to blind people for better playing bandura (?!).

Of course everybody knows that bandurists in Ukraina were in 20th century as anachronism as gusli players in Russia. But surely some people will have bad aftertaste (as in joke)
 
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arkteia

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Nov 2012
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They were not executing for “social parasitism” in the 70-es. Brezhnev’s time was stagnant, but in no way did he measure up to Stalin or Lenin or Trotsky or even Khrushchev and I remember him as the leader rather positively. To paraphrase Anna Akhmatova, that time was “vegetarian” compared to the previous ones.

About “social parasitism”. I know of one interesting example.

Iosiph Brodsky, later the Nobel Prize laureate in literature, was arrested for “parasitism” as he was a self-proclaimed poet and did not work anywhere

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Brodsky

“In 1963, his poetry was denounced as pornographic and anti-Soviet.
His papers were confiscated, he was interrogated, twice put in a mental institution and then arrested. He was charged with social parasitism by the Soviet authorities in a trial in 1964, finding that his series of odd jobs and role as a poet were not a sufficient contribution to society. They called him "a pseudo-poet in velveteen trousers" who failed to fulfill his "constitutional duty to work honestly for the good of the motherland". The trial judge asked "Who has recognized you as a poet? Who has enrolled you in the ranks of poets?" – "No one," Brodsky replied, "Who enrolled me in the ranks of the human race?" Brodsky was not yet 24.

For his "parasitism" Brodsky was sentenced to five years hard labor and served 18 months on a farm in the village of Norenskaya, in the Archangelsk region, 350 miles from Leningrad. He rented his own small cottage, and though it was without plumbing or central heating, having one's own, private space was taken to be a great luxury at the time.[8] Basmanova, Bobyshev and Brodsky's mother, among others, visited. He wrote on his typewriter, chopped wood, hauled manure and at night read his anthologies of English and American poetry, including a lot of W. H. Auden and Robert Frost. Brodsky's close friend and biographer Lev Loseff writes that while confinement in the mental hospital and the trial were miserable experiences, the 18 months in the Arctic were among the best times of Brodsky's life. Brodsky's mentor, Anna Akhmatova, laughed at the KGB's shortsightedness. "What a biography they're fashioning for our red-haired friend!" she said. "It's as if he'd hired them to do it on purpose."

Brodsky was a genius, he is totally lost in translation, but in Russian, he sounds wonderful.
 
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Maribat

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Mar 2012
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Thanks God I never lived in Russia. No need to insult me.
And I lived in Ukraine. I had relatives in Ukraine. In fact my grandmother was from Ukraine and I don't find it insulting or incriminating.

But... I am still waiting for the proofs about the dead bandurists
 

Maribat

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Mar 2012
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The Moscow authorities wanted everyone in the Land of Soviets to work for the state. And in the late 1930, they exterminated almost all Ukrainian lyres and bandura players. These are blind wandering musicians, accompanied usually by an orphan boy. They sang in the Ukrainian villages old legends about the former Cossack glory and different spiritual songs . In 1930, the Bolshevik authorities gathered them all together in Kharkov for a congress of kobzars. And after the congress, no one had seen them.

The well-known Soviet composer Shostakovich who at that time communicated a lot with the Moscow authorities, in his memoirs reported that these lyres and bandura players were shot.

So are you going to present proofs of this story? Documents of some kind?
 

Dir

Nov 2015
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Kyiv
Any documentary evidence?
Try to look into the archives of the FSB. This structure declares itself a direct heir to the Cheka-OGPU-NKVD-MGB-KGB, and all their archives are in the hands of the FSB. A huge part of them is still classified
 

Dir

Nov 2015
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Kyiv
Don't doubt. Now he is busy fabrikating them. Btw, they have horrible phantasy in Canada: to blind people for better playing bandura (?!).
- You are unlikely to surprise me with cannibalistic jokes about the extermination of blind Ukrainian musicians by the Moscow occupation authorities in Ukraine. I've heard a lot of your compatriots' scathing jokes about the Ukrainian Holodomor and other mass crimes committed by your authorities in my country in the past. They consider these things appropriate for Russian humor