How much of the Spanish republics in the Spanish Civil War were Communists?

Futurist

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How much of the Spanish republics in the Spanish Civil War were Communists? Does anyone have any data in regards to this?

This is sort of a relevant question in determining whom one exactly should support in this war. After all, Communists don't exactly have a good track record in regards to maintaining democracy.
 

pugsville

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How much of the Spanish republics in the Spanish Civil War were Communists? Does anyone have any data in regards to this?

This is sort of a relevant question in determining whom one exactly should support in this war. After all, Communists don't exactly have a good track record in regards to maintaining democracy.

Breath takeningly small.

1936 2.5% of the vote.

Communist Party of Spain - Wikipedia
"Being a well-knit and highly disciplined organization, the PCE could in spite of its numerical weakness play an important part in the war. In the first five months of the war, PCE grew from 30,000 members to 100,000. It also founded a Spanish branch of the International Red Aid, which assisted the Republican cause considerably."
 
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This is sort of a relevant question in determining whom one exactly should support in this war. After all, Communists don't exactly have a good track record in regards to maintaining democracy.
I'm surprised you say this, given that the victor of the war was a militay dictator who destroyed a republic.
 

Futurist

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I'm surprised you say this, given that the victor of the war was a militay dictator who destroyed a republic.
I'm not fond of any dictators, but Communists have a nastier history than run-of-the-mill right-wing dictators.

Note: Hitler was not a run-of-the-mill right-wing dictator. He was much more brutal than Mussolini, Franco, Salazar, Horthy (pre-1944), et cetera.
 

betgo

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The Republican government originally was mostly radical, but not Communist. The Soviet Union was the only country interested in helping the Republic. The Soviet Union gradually got control of the Republican government.
 
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At the origins,the PCE had only one "deputado" in the Parliament.But with the quantities of weapons given by USSR,his influence grew extraordinary,until one million of members at the end of 1938.In the Spanish Republic,it was an obligation to belong to the political or sindicate organizations,members of the "Frente Popular".If not,you didn t have access to the public services ,and especially to the food s tickets.
 

martin76

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Dear Futurist,

Everything depends on what do you understand for being a communist.... remember Lee Harvey Oswald... he was asked if he was communist and he said.. No, I am not a communist.. I am a Marxist - Leninist.

Truth, PCE as FALANGE were very minority political organizations before the War.

However we can´t forget PSOE was a Marxist Party... in three wings: Largo Caballero (Marxist Leninist), Indalecio Prieto (Marxist) and Julian Besteiro (the only moderated).

PSOE was a MARXIST PARTY till the year 1979 (XXVII Congress).

So... The main Marxist forces in Spain was PSOE not PCE.

Can you see this page from the EL SOCIALISTA (The Socialist.. PSOE´s official paper)



In this editorial from the year 1931, PSOE say they want the PROLETARIAT dictatorship... "Queremos lograr nuestras aspiraciones legalmente"...(we want to achieve our aspirations legally (we want to socialize the Private Ownership). Also, PSOE declare they want to destroy the "democracia burguesa y el liberalismo"
(bourgeois democracy and liberalism... because they are enemies of this Republic)...

Remember... the editorial is from 1931.. previous event to the Constitution. So... PCE was almost impossible to be popular when PSOE was the large MARXIST party in Spain. PSOE wanted to finish with all the political parties and to establish the Proletariat dictatorship and prohibit the private owneship.

PSOE Meeting in 1931:


 
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Dear Mr Martin,you know very much that the revolutionar tendance of Largo Caballero was only a part of the spanish socialism.Indalecio prieto and Julian Besteiro had an enormous influence and were opposed to a marxist dictatorship,prefering for Spain a future social democrat road.The UGT,where the socialists were very numerous was often in conflict with the PCE and the CNT.And in the JSU all the tendances were representated.
 

Tulius

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How much of the Spanish republics in the Spanish Civil War were Communists? Does anyone have any data in regards to this?

This is sort of a relevant question in determining whom one exactly should support in this war. After all, Communists don't exactly have a good track record in regards to maintaining democracy.
Breath takeningly small.

1936 2.5% of the vote.

Communist Party of Spain - Wikipedia
"Being a well-knit and highly disciplined organization, the PCE could in spite of its numerical weakness play an important part in the war. In the first five months of the war, PCE grew from 30,000 members to 100,000. It also founded a Spanish branch of the International Red Aid, which assisted the Republican cause considerably."
The Communist Party of Spain was not the only Communist Party in Spain (for instance the Trotskyist POUM was also communist).

And in 1936 these parties went to the elections together with the Socialists (PSOE) and others in a coalition (Popular Front).

So it is hard to desegregate: 1936 Spanish general election - Wikipedia

The influence of the Communist Party of Spain grew considerable during the Civil War, controlling the government and surpassing its elections results.

But like Martin said:

PCE was almost impossible to be popular when PSOE was the large MARXIST party in Spain.
 
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My maternal granfather,brigadeer of infantry in the famous "Quinto Regimiento" of the major Castro Delgado, told me that in september 1936 he saw coming in Madrid one batallion of the infantry regiment of Valence,the Otumba regiment.Most of those soldiers were workers in the agriculture sector,especially in the fruits.They told that they wanted to die not for the perfect society,but for the right to their children to have an orange for Christmas,as their salary don t permit them to by anything.