- Feb 2011
- Perambulating in St James' Park
Hmm- once again you don't get it. I am not saying hypnotism doesn't WORK- as hypnosis- if i were saying that then i would not be warning that it CAN plant false memories.
But it only works as Suggestion to those Willing to go along.
Thus- my own example for the Pin in the Knee experiment proves that Suggestion alone can help people moderate their own experience of pain- the point to that story was that hypnosis can do it- AND that merely having a conversation openly eliciting cooperation can do it too- that is- that ALL forms of suggestion are effectively the sam as hypnosis.
A hamburger commercial is a form of hypnosis- they come on near meal times and try to sway those open to suggestion to feel like getting a hamburger.
THAT is what hypnotism is and what it does.
Its effectiveness at manipulation is its danger.
Sorry- but you are wrong. A therapist saying "did anything happen" is STILL steering the narrative. Because they simply keep saying it, over and over, until the child says something more in line with the therapists own bias or expectation. And then the therapist subtly rewards the child for saying the "right" things.
This has been proven to happen in ways so subtle the therapist can not control it. Body language. A sigh. A sudden change of topic... all kinds of very subtle cues that push a patient to seek that feedback thru inventing details.
Human beings CAN NOT keep themselves from giving cues and feedback.
Therapists trying to recover memories always start with an assumption of the KIND of 'repressed' memories they are looking for- This simple fact has been proven to result in their finding exactly what they are looking for.
ETA- oh, and BTW- an authority telling the Therapist that they need to know if this child has been molested- is actively planting a SUGGESTION in the therapist's mind. The therapist is walking into the room under that suggestion. that is- he himself has been hypnotized. An authority figure told him what he is likely to find- and so he looks harder for that than anything else.
This, too, is hypnosis, and this is its danger- in 'official' hypnosis, someone ASKS you to voluntarily give up your own will to theirs. But we are hypnotized all the time unawares. The Therapist speaking to the authority prior to the interview is merely OPEN to hear what the authority has to say- but he can not help but be lulled by the fact of this being an authority in placing more credence in the authority's suggestion.
The therapist is unwittingly agreeing to adopt the authority's suggestion, and the fact that he does not even recognize the authority as planting suggestion only makes the suggestion more effective- because the therapist is not even aware he has surrendered his own 'objectivity' to the officer's narrative.
That is how you manipulate whole populations.
So, yeah, hypnotism works- ALMOST as well as simply asking people to suspend their own will and pretend.
Advertising is hypnosis. And so are public speeches.
And concert performances.
Its simply the human evolved trait to go along- to band into mob- to get swept up in other's excitement or agenda.
And we also evolved a certain percentage of Non-Suggestibility... because there has to be a moderator on peoples willingness to do as they are told.
We sometimes need to hear a different person telling us to do a different thing, so that we can wake up and realize that we are making a choice.
There is nothing amazing about hypnotism except the hype.
What if he/she is an independent psychiatrist?
Imho what you're suggesting is a bit different to getting someone to dance around like a chicken. If an authority figure asked someone to do that with no hypnosis most people would say no.