If ethnocentrism and racialism is bad, what about Zionism and Jewish ethnocentrism?

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If ethnocentrism and racialism is to be unqualifiedly bad and evil, or at least immoral, then why is ZIonism or Jewish ethnocentrism placed in a different category, or at the very least it is widely recognized as legitimate concern, say when a Rabbi bemoans the lack or Jews marrying other Jews, and how instead most Jews choose to marry nonJews instead, thus diluting the Jewish culture and ethnicity.
 
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It's all bad. What do you expect people to fall for the trap and say racism is good in some contexts and not others?

And the nationalist Japanese get trashed all the time, we just don't hear about it that much over here.
 
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Mrbsct

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The Jewish thing is needs to stop. American Jews don't even support Israel and mix all the time. The so called Hollywood, Central Bank, Media so called illuminati lizards are supportive of better relations Iran and Palestine which is against the interests of the Jewish state. American interests in Israel or strategic in reality and less to do with Judiasm.

The West anti-ethnic identity and Japanese pro-ethnic identity has to do with culture and economics. The Western elite liberal class wants a world of were everyone comes to its shores and expands its economy. The Japanese have no hegemonic desires in all industrial sectors.
 
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Maki

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Is Zionism racism?
Why would it be? Unlike what many people think, Zionism is not some evil conspiracy controlling the world from behind the scenes, it is simply a belief that Jews should have a state in the Holy Land. That belief is not racist.
 
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Futurist

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Is Zionism racism?
It's as racist as Russia (hypothetically) requiring all of its immigrants to be either ethnic Slavs or converts to the Russian Orthodox Church or as racist as Britain (hypothetically) requiring all of its immigrants to be either ethnic Brits or converts to the Church of England.
 

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If ethnocentrism and racialism is to be unqualifiedly bad and evil, or at least immoral, then why is ZIonism or Jewish ethnocentrism placed in a different category, or at the very least it is widely recognized as legitimate concern, say when a Rabbi bemoans the lack or Jews marrying other Jews, and how instead most Jews choose to marry nonJews instead, thus diluting the Jewish culture and ethnicity.
The great irony of this is, of course, that the child of a Jewish mother and a non-Jewish father would still be considered halakhically Jewish. Thus, if such a marriage is good enough to produce Jewish children, why not approve of this marriage?
 
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Jews are not ethnos. "Jew" always meant religious affiliation. Only after 1945 it became national. But it was nation of new type, such America or Brazil, but not as old European ethnoses.

There are no particular Jewish race too. Jews racially mainly Western Asians (Arabs) or Western Asian/European mix. Or simply - they are Arabian/European mix.

But i understand what you say about. Modern Western ideology (religion) forbids identity. So many people think that it forbids any identity. But it is delusion. It forbids only old European identities. Because this new western ideology is a substitute for classical European ideology of European national states.
 
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