In a no-WW2 scenario would Poland's population today be larger than France's population?

Sep 2016
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Georgia
#31
The series of wars between 1648 and 1667 was extremely demographically crippling for Poland. Surely not any less than Thirty Years' War for Germany.
France started a war in 1635 and stopped fighting in 1659. Not only that, but during that period there was also a Civil War ( Fronde ) in 1648 - 1653. Plus, several rebellions in provinces.

In 1667 France essentially started a series of wars against rest of Europe and they continued up until 1714. There were also terrible famines in 1693-1694 and 1709.

Before all of that, you also have 30 years of Religious wars in France and Italian Wars in 16th century.
 
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Oct 2013
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Europix
#32
Poland would have probably had emigration rates comparable to those of Britain and France by the end of the 20th century in this scenario.
Although the data is a bit blurred and a bit difficult to find and read, we can reasonably say that Your "would have" is most likely wrong. Poland has an estimated 1 to 2 million Ukrainians (both permanent and not permanent residents) on it's territory. Total population= 39 millions.
 
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Futurist

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May 2014
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#33
Although the data is a bit blurred and a bit difficult to find and read, we can reasonably say that Your "would have" is most likely wrong. Poland has an estimated 1 to 2 million Ukrainians (both permanent and not permanent residents) on it's territory. Total population= 39 millions.
I said emigration--not immigration--here.
 

Larrey

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Sep 2011
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#36
Sweden got a lot of immigrants in spite of not having much of a colonial history, though.
It helps to be just about the only non--war damaged developed economy on a continent (Sweden was still in the G6 in 1948), with massive refugee streams following a world war – and then get a massive industrial development screaming for new labour to run it – to get that kind of dynamic started.

Once you have established that this is a good place to head for you get a new baseline for what kind of volume of immigration to expect.

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