In which countries that subsequently became independent was there a lot of support for colonialism among the natives up to the very end?

Futurist

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May 2014
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#71
Those are some amazing stats. Wonder how the US works so well, despite a large number of people expressing support for secession.

It is entirely possible that those people only answered "yes" out of anger against the policies of the incumbent President, and not really having a dedicated and serious support of secession.
Yeah, some people in those polls might have simply been blowing hot air.
 

robto

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#75
The independence movement from Indonesia had a very large support from Australia and also the UN. Of course none of those two actors wanted Timor to get back to Portugal.
Besides, Portugal after the Democratic constitution of 1975 officially relinquished any colonial possession they had. Portugal doesn't want to take any colony.
 
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Futurist

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The independence movement from Indonesia had a very large support from Australia and also the UN. Of course none of those two actors wanted Timor to get back to Portugal.
What did the people of East Timor actually want?

Besides, Portugal after the Democratic constitution of 1975 officially relinquished any colonial possession they had. Portugal doesn't want to take any colony.
That makes sense.
 
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#78
What caused pro-Dutch sentiment to be so high there?

Can a declining state retaliate that much, though?

Yep. Also, ditto for the Croatian Serbs, no?

Yep and Yep.

Yep--though that might at least in part be due to there not being any better available options until 1918. BTW, interestingly enough, the Ukrainians in Galicia appear to have disliked Polish rule and would have probably preferred independence.

Yep.

Yep--though I'm not really sure if one could actually consider the Hungarians to be victims of imperialism after 1867.
The ambonese were mostly Christian or pagan and resented the rule of muslims.
The Egyptians didn't know for sure if Assyria would lose the war, they were still capable of winning battles.
Not as many serbs in Croatia.
Many of the Hungarian revolution leaders from 1848 revolution bitterly hated Hungary giving up its chance for true independence. Louis Kossuth predicted that Hungary would suffer greatly by chaining itself to a dying empire.
 
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Futurist

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The ambonese were mostly Christian or pagan and resented the rule of muslims.
So, why not carve out a separate state for them like the British did for the Indian Muslims?

The Egyptians didn't know for sure if Assyria would lose the war, they were still capable of winning battles.
OK.

Not as many serbs in Croatia.
Yep, but still enough to be a majority in some compact areas:



Many of the Hungarian revolution leaders from 1848 revolution bitterly hated Hungary giving up its chance for true independence. Louis Kossuth predicted that Hungary would suffer greatly by chaining itself to a dying empire.
Hungary didn't actually have a choice, though. After all, Russia--perhaps foolishly--decided to support the Austrians rather than the Hungarians in this conflict.
 
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So, why not carve out a separate state for them like the British did for the Indian Muslims?

OK.

Yep, but still enough to be a majority in some compact areas:


Hungary didn't actually have a choice, though. After all, Russia--perhaps foolishly--decided to support the Austrians rather than the Hungarians in this conflict.
Not large enough a population, not developed enough and Indonesia demanded the entire colony be one state.
Some Hungarian revolution leaders would have preferred to fight for true independence, rather than be the toadies of their oppressors.
 
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