Indian sabre like outer curved/blade sword from the shunga and chola periods

Mar 2019
1,436
KL
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pottery relief from shunga period

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chola temple painting

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not many outer curved swords are shown in the indian reliefs, most of them are like inner curved and blade swords, but i do think that these evidences prove that in india there were outer curved blade swords.
 
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Mar 2019
1,436
KL
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Indian carved ivory 8-11th century, multan or mansura sindh

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i dont know whether the bent is near the edge of the blade due to space constriction and only a flawed artistic rendition of an otherwise straight sword or it is actually curved or is it actually straight but merely looks like this from this angle view
 
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Dan Howard

Ad Honorem
Aug 2014
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Australia
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Illustrations and carvings aren't much use because they can be interpreted in multiple ways. IMO the first couple of illustrations are just showing regular knives. There is plenty of archaeological evidence with real, actual weapons. Why not produce some of those? IMO you are creating a strawman because nobody claims that the Indians never used sabres.

Look up the Talwar.
 
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Mar 2019
1,436
KL
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is this the first depiction of talwar?, the edge looks really much like a that of talwar, but doesnt seem that bent

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if it is indeed a tulwar/talwar it will be pre turkic era of 8-11th century, the hilt looks rather plain with no pommel as well unlike tulwars/talwars.

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the end of the tulwar/talwar is broad just like the image on the ivory, as well
 
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pottery relief from shunga period

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chola temple painting

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not many outer curved swords are shown in the indian reliefs, most of them are like inner curved and blade swords, but i do think that these evidences prove that in india there were outer curved blade swords.
Cool, but, besides being from the Shunga period, what is the location of the discovery of the first object?
 
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KL
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Indian carved ivory 8-11th century, multan or mansura sindh

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i dont know whether the bent is near the edge of the blade due to space constriction and only a flawed artistic rendition of an otherwise straight sword or it is actually curved or is it actually straight but merely looks like this from this angle view

This sword maybe this one from gupta period, but then again i dont see that rounded edge and a little better curve than this below one

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Mar 2019
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KL
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Khandagiri caves, built during 2nd century BCE

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arival/ south indian sword/ probably, but the above image is from orissa, khandagiri caves, Arival is also an inner edged sword probably compared to the one depicted in the cave, it is curious to know that the protruding thingy on the blade is on the revere side of the blade depicted in the cave. There is also lesser degree of rapid curve compared to Arival.

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it is also curious to see that the khadagiri caves sword also has some peculiar feature which is characteristic of tulwar/sabre sword, near the edge suddenly the blade tries to broaden, but this feature is not extended well to the edge in this case.

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it also has a very peculiar slasher handle

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I also noticed that in a Kushite sword

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i dont know what this handle is called?

Kushite delegation on a Persian relief from the Apadana palace (c. 500 BC)

Kingdom of Kush - Wikipedia
 
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