Indira Gandhi

Apr 2019
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India
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I She also wrote a book about Jiddu Krishamurthi--Incidently to my greatest suprise Indra Gandhi had sought a "Private audience" with JK once !!
I don't know anything about the private audience with JK but Indira Gandhi was deeply religious lady even bordering on being superstituous. She was close to her spiritual guide Dhirendra Brahmachari.
 
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Jun 2014
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New Delhi, India
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Yeah, she was superstitious, but not 'religious' or as you mention, 'deeply religious'. She was from a political family, who would use religion if it benefited them.
.. and how she distanced herself from women's movements in India. .. and how influential Indira has and currently is on the lives of many in India.
Women's issues involve meddling with religions. That is why her son stuck to Muslim Personal Law in case of Shahbano Begum. Working for women's rights can mean loss of votes. .. People quickly turn into history after they pass away. That is what has happened to Gandhi, Nehru, Ambedkar, Indira, Rajeev, etc. Only three things survive from Indira's time - Bangladesh, Emergency and Sikh riots. And if you talk of jokes, then 'Garibi Hatao'.
 
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Sep 2012
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Georgi Yordanov is a Bulgarian lawyer and politician of the Bulgarian Communist Party. He was the last Minister of Culture, Science and Education before the collapse of the Second world. In the following he speaks about Indira Gandi, Rajiv Gandhi and Indian-Bulgarian relations in general during this period. I hope this would be interesting for you guys / rough translation follows.
Indira Gandhi made an official visit to Bulgaria from November 6th to November 9th, 1981. From the plane she got off with her daughter-in-law Sonia and her two children. The first snow had fallen in the morning. The children coming from the warm ground began to snowball. At that moment, their distinguished grandmother greeted the Guard of Honor.

At a formal dinner at the Boyana residence, she complained that one of the big problems she had to deal with was a terrible birth rate - about 30%. "And we take counter measures. We hope to reach ten million people, "said T. Zhivkov.

"Where to have your problem!" Laughed the tall guest.
At the solemn concert at 7 pm on November 8 in the Great Hall of the National Palace of Culture, Indira Gandhi exclaimed in the performance of Bulgarian folk dances and melodies: "I see some distant similarity with elements of Indian folklore ..."

For a month and a half after that memorial visit, I led the Bulgarian delegation for the solemn celebration of the 1300th anniversary of the Bulgarian state. Indira Gandhi welcomed me into her home - a simple one-storey house with a small yard. No shine in the interior. The warm spiritual comfort in the home of the billionaire leader is perhaps one of the explanations for the affection with which the majority of the nation bestows it. Apparently, Mahatma Gandhi's call to live modestly, to act on a quiet personal example has left a lasting mark and is personified by Indira Gandhi in her way of life.

She said that the Bulgarian-Indian relations are an example for other countries with different appearance and social system. Deep in my mind, she remembered her words: “Relations between Bulgaria and India are not friendly but relatives. I will never forget the warm welcome weeks ago in Bulgaria. The differences do not distance us, but bring us closer. There is great opportunity for cooperation between India and Bulgaria ... "

It informs us of the difficult path her country is taking, of the opposition she encounters from reactionary circles against a number of measures she is taking in the interest of the people. "Here, I invite you to attend the parliament, which will discuss the privatization of Indian airlines. We are against it, but there are wealthy circles who want to deprive us of this personification of the state. ”The debate on the matter lasted minutes in parliament. Outraged MPs rejected the possibility of an independent India depriving itself of its symbol - the national civilian carrier.

Once again, I became convinced of the strength with which the billion-dollar people asserted their dignity. What a striking difference to the behavior of Bulgarian executives! In the late 1990s, they donated more than $ 1 billion to the Balkan Bank for assets that could buy a home in Sofia. Coming from nowhere, having received "their", the gentlemen did not even read the privatization contract, ie. for a donation. He made a fantastic profit, the skillful combiner from abroad took advantage of the criminal ignorance of the Bulgarian rulers and decided to sue the state for extra sums…

Bribed by her enemies, security guards killed the notable leader in 1984. India is plunged into sorrow. I wrote a condolence letter to her closest person, Minister Sheila Cole:
“I am deeply shocked by the ominous news of the tragic death of India's great daughter, a prominent politician and contemporary statesman Indira Gandhi. In the days of pain and distress in my mind, the unforgettable image of a woman and a leader, a symbol of a multi-million dollar India, stands out. The world has lost one of its distinguished peacekeepers.
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Please accept, dear colleague and friend, Mrs. Sheila Cole, my deepest condolences on the death of your closest relative along with my firm conviction that the case for which Jawaharlal Hepy Indira Gandhi's daughter lives and fights continued for the good and happiness of the Indian people, in the interest of peace and international understanding.
Yours sincerely
Georgi Yordanov “

Fidelity to the tradition of continuing the path of Mahatma Gandhi, Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi has forced the decision to head her country to elect her son - the charming air ace Rajiv Gandhi. Unfortunately, he was also met with the tragic fate of his great mother. In 1991, he was killed by a Tamil terrorist-kamikaze. And its dust covered Indian soil.

The warmth, cordiality and deep respect with which friends in India celebrated our country's 1300th anniversary are unforgettable. The participation of the Minister of Human Resources and Development, HR, Mrs. Sheila Cole, Indira Gandhi's aunt, was decisive in the National Jubilee Committee on the celebration. We have a deep collegial friendship. A prominent statesman, Bhatia, who headed the Committee for India-Bulgaria Cooperation, also played a very active role. On every occasion - at meetings, in conversations or meetings, he spoke in exciting words about the "unique country of Bulgaria". And he suffered blows from his villains, being among the most prominent representatives of the state of Punjab. Separatist terrorists staged an attack on him in one of the temples. Half of his jaw was swept away. He said with a smile that he was not afraid of death, because he knows how long he will live. He is foretold by a famous seer. He offered to visit the fortune teller.


I politely declined: I do not have the courage to learn how long I will live. The jubilee committee included India's most prominent figures. Balram, Speaker of Parliament, Sheila Cole, Kumud Joshi, Minister of Information, Satanarayan Rao, President of the Jubilee Committee, spoke at one of the big halls in the capital city ... Lucknow, etc.
Indian President Redi called the Bulgarian and Indian people "one family". Conducted after Indira Gandhi's memorable visit to Bulgaria, the anniversary events in honor of our country were identified in the Indian media as "events".

Many specialists in Bulgarian and Hindi have been trained at the University of Delhi and Sofia University. Useful initiatives have been taken of our cooperation in the broad fields of cultural life of both countries. Holidays of Bulgarian culture in India and Indian culture in Bulgaria have become a tradition. The modern media - television, radio, print, have widely informed about the events included in the programs of cultural days.
 
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Sep 2012
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At the invitation of the Indian Government, I visited India for the second time from February 16 to 21, 1987. Minister Narasimha Rao and I signed a long-term scientific, technical and cultural cooperation agreement. Again, I experienced exciting days. At high-profile meetings and exhibitions and concerts, our high-ranking Indian friends emphasized the exceptional nature of Bulgarian-Indian friendship, the economic, political and cultural exchanges between the two countries.

Vice President Venkataraman also attended a festive concert on February 18, 1987 with the participation of Bulgarian musicians. A connoisseur of classical music, the statesman admired the performance of Sofia Soloists, led by the talented conductor Emil Tabakov. The Vice President expressed interest in the "descendants of India". "In Europe you call them 'Roma' ... I noticed that I was a little anxious to tell him about their fate here. "Yes, they have about 300,000 in our country. Everyone has jobs, most are educated. Some work in modern industrial enterprises and agricultural cooperatives, others express themselves in the arts ... "He said:" It is our tradition ... "

I pointed out to him Georgi Kalaydzhiev - concert-violinist of the orchestra. The Vice President wanted to meet them. They talked to each other for a long time. The virtuoso violinist was impressed by the modest behavior of the great figure of India. G. Kalaidzhiev has a school in Germany today and is helping to educate young talented musicians who want to follow his path.

Human Resources and Development Minister Narasimha Rao spoke about her impressions of Bulgaria during the XXIII UNESCO General Assembly in October-November 1985 in Sofia: "I remember your kindness and diligence during our visit to your great country. .. ”
In the successive days of Indian culture in Bulgaria - June 23-26, 1988, N. Rao led the Indian cultural delegation. At the solemn meeting in the Bulgaria Hall before the concert, in response to my welcome, the guest spoke praiseworthy words about Bulgaria, its historical path and culture, the lasting tendency of mutual respect and friendship between our countries.

During the formal dinner, the ambassador of India approached my guest, whispered something to him, and handed him a letter. Minister Narasimha Rao staggered, shook his head meaningfully, and told me, "What to do, it is my duty ..." He explained to me: Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi informed him that he was appointing him Minister of Foreign Affairs. I asked him if I could congratulate him on his new post. "It's not for congratulations. I prefer to remain your colleague. Responsible for education, culture, human resources and development. There is the future of our country ... But how can I react from here? And who will hear me? "And he repeated:" This is a national debt, I will fulfill it ... "

By the time we had dinner, he was already thinking about his new position. Explain to me what the challenges will be. Apart from internal problems, opposition to opposition, separatist movements in Punjab and elsewhere, India is surrounded by complex neighbors. "Our relations with Pakistan are very difficult. We have big problems in our relations with neighboring China ... "

The next day, Foreign Minister Peter Mladenov called me on the red phone. "Gosh, do you know that your guest is already India's foreign minister?" "Of course I know." "You have no idea what respect the Indian foreign ministers have in the UN. They are among the most respected personalities. I ask you very much to include me in the program and to attend the meeting that he has with Comrade Zhivkov. I want to meet my new colleague ... "

So it happened. The lunch with Todor Zhivkov lasted for several hours. The talks were cordial, deeply meaningful. India's new foreign minister has repeatedly assured us that our interconnections have a sound foundation and no circumstances can change them.

Minister N. Rao did not change these assurances. He continued to promote Bulgarian-Indian co-operation and his new post. The joint Bulgarian-Indian Economic and Scientific and Technical Cooperation Committees and the high-level delegations contributed to the realization of mutually beneficial economic and foreign trade projects. As Prime Minister of India (1992-1996), Narasimha Rao continued this line in the aftermath of world history since 1989.

When interacting with people from India, I was left with a lasting impression: there is something unique about the spirituality of the populous people. Along with the proverbial poverty, there are big billionaires in the country. The scientific institutes apply the most up-to-date technologies of electronic computers, biotechnology and higher mathematics. But all - rich and poor, intellectuals and ordinary people - are enraged by the rare modesty written on their faces in their behavior. President N. Reddy said his term is over in a few months. "You will probably continue to advise younger politicians?" He shook his head sharply, "No, no. I'll be back in the country. I have a small property there. I will indulge in farming. I love farming. I became president to do my duty. I will continue to serve India as a simple farmer ... "

At every meeting with the politicians and citizens of the friendly country, I was again and again convinced of the dignity of the great people. Modern-day India, a land of poets and prophets, is indeed the rightful heir to an ancient culture. Philosophical insights, intimate simplicity and humanism, a striving for complete harmony between man and nature - this is perhaps the essence of Indian spirituality for millennia. That is why the days that Rabindranath Tagore spent in Sofia in the 1930s are defined as "holidays of wisdom and beauty." "When I see how much sympathy you welcome me, I think you will accept me as your poet, and I feel Bulgarian." What a touching words!
Source: Георги Йорданов: Индира Ганди казваше - Отношенията България - Индия не са приятелски, а роднински!
 
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Yeah, she was superstitious, but not 'religious' or as you mention, 'deeply religious'. She was from a political family, who would use religion if it benefited them.
Women's issues involve meddling with religions. That is why her son stuck to Muslim Personal Law in case of Shahbano Begum. Working for women's rights can mean loss of votes. .. People quickly turn into history after they pass away. That is what has happened to Gandhi, Nehru, Ambedkar, Indira, Rajeev, etc. Only three things survive from Indira's time - Bangladesh, Emergency and Sikh riots. And if you talk of jokes, then 'Garibi Hatao'.
This is very interesting, thank you. It does seem more understanding as to why she distanced herself from women issues due to the religious climate of society.
 
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I don't know anything about the private audience with JK but Indira Gandhi was deeply religious lady even bordering on being superstituous. She was close to her spiritual guide Dhirendra Brahmachari.
Hello Kamayani, My impression was that Dhirendra Brahmachari was Indira's Yoga teacher. May be he was more. Are you aware of any details of their relationship from first hand accounts?
 
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Sri Lanka
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Hello Kamayani, My impression was that Dhirendra Brahmachari was Indira's Yoga teacher. May be he was more. Are you aware of any details of their relationship from first hand accounts?
How can you be aware of any first hand accounts when you're not party to it ? :rolleyes:
 
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