Inglourious Basterds

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Jan 2008
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Chile, Santiago
#12
You are confusing Germans with Nazis.
Yeah but still its German history and this is just a Jewish wish for vengeance against Nazi's. So a movie about Killing and scalping Nazi's is cool? If I came out with a Nazi vengeance movie it would not be considered good and it would considered racist and evil and so on and so forth.
 
Mar 2009
1,026
Hofheim, Germany
#13
Yeah but still its German history and this is just a Jewish wish for vengeance against Nazi's. So a movie about Killing and scalping Nazi's is cool? If I came out with a Nazi vengeance movie it would not be considered good and it would considered racist and evil and so on and so forth.
You have a point there. I agree the scalping was over the top, but nonetheless the film went down well with the German audience. Why? Because no one likes Nazis, except Nazis themselves.

I agree that it IS Germany history and it would be nice to see a film from the other side for once. However, Nazism is an ideology, not a race, and a particularly bad one at that. The German audience understood that it was not their German brethren who were being portrayed as evil in the film, but Nazism. The German youth realise that what their grandparents did was wrong in today's eyes, but they themselves were not responsible for what happened.
 
Jan 2008
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Chile, Santiago
#14
You have a point there. I agree the scalping was over the top, but nonetheless the film went down well with the German audience. Why? Because no one likes Nazis, except Nazis themselves.

I agree that it IS Germany history and it would be nice to see a film from the other side for once. However, Nazism is an ideology, not a race, and a particularly bad one at that. The German audience understood that it was not their German brethren who were being portrayed as evil in the film, but Nazism. The German youth realise that what their grandparents did was wrong in today's eyes, but they themselves were not responsible for what happened.
I really would consider Nazism a cult in some circumstances. As I have spoken with many Nazis face to face and the idea of a different point of view is completely out of the question with any of them and they defend it to the death even if they sound stupid. Though yeah I guess I don't see this the same way others do. Though think about how pathetic it was for Hitler to kill himself and then get his body burnt up. The top Nazis might have killed themselves or got hung but in my opinion that was the real vengeance as on that day National Socialism died forever. No possible way for them ever to become a political threat anywhere. Except maybe Russia or Germany.
 
Jan 2008
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Chile, Santiago
#16
If only modern day Nazis realised that >.<
Yeah if only; but why would they? They see themselves as still continuing a race war. Many of the article they have once you become associated with them they openly talk about Race war and extermination and a up and coming civil war. That is the way they see it. They see it as fighting for the "White race" that is being deluded by these other "races".

Of course its insane but they probably won't stop until most of them die out. Many of the modern heroes of the Nazi movement are Timothy McVeigh and Robert Matthews and David Lane. They see these men as starting the future "Race War" as they call it.
 
Mar 2009
1,026
Hofheim, Germany
#17
Yeah if only; but why would they? They see themselves as still continuing a race war. Many of the article they have once you become associated with them they openly talk about Race war and extermination and a up and coming civil war. That is the way they see it. They see it as fighting for the "White race" that is being deluded by these other "races".

Of course its insane but they probably won't stop until most of them die out. Many of the modern heroes of the Nazi movement are Timothy McVeigh and Robert Matthews and David Lane. They see these men as starting the future "Race War" as they call it.
It won't happen. It's wishful thinking on their part. They represent a minority, much smaller than the minorities they are fighting against. A large part of their "war" is confined to jails anyway... If they want to behave like kids and not share toys with the others in the sandbox then that is their own loss. Even if the white race is being "diluted", so what? If a white man/woman wants to marry and have children with someone of a nother race then that is their right. It's quite ironic... many of these white supremacists are destroying their own lives and families, and consequently the immidate expansion of their race, by getting themselves thrown in jail.
 
Jan 2008
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Chile, Santiago
#18
It won't happen. It's wishful thinking on their part. They represent a minority, much smaller than the minorities they are fighting against. A large part of their "war" is confined to jails anyway... If they want to behave like kids and not share toys with the others in the sandbox then that is their own loss. Even if the white race is being "diluted", so what? If a white man/woman wants to marry and have children with someone of a nother race then that is their right. It's quite ironic... many of these white supremacists are destroying their own lives and families, and consequently the immidate expansion of their race, by getting themselves thrown in jail.
Yeah I know it is stupid. Though don't confuse groups like the Aryan Brotherhood with actual Nazis. As the Aryan Brotherhood is just a criminal gang that uses the Nazi ideology as a cover.
 
Mar 2009
1,026
Hofheim, Germany
#19
Yeah I know it is stupid. Though don't confuse groups like the Aryan Brotherhood with actual Nazis. As the Aryan Brotherhood is just a criminal gang that uses the Nazi ideology as a cover.
I tend to put them all together... at the end of the day aren't they just Nazis, at least in the sense of the Nazi ideology of "cleansing" the human race?
 
Jan 2008
18,733
Chile, Santiago
#20
I tend to put them all together... at the end of the day aren't they just Nazis, at least in the sense of the Nazi ideology of "cleansing" the human race?
No cause Jewish people join the Aryan Brotherhood. They sell drugs, they rape people and they murder people and steal from people. They also do all these things to white men and anybody else also. In Nazi ideology Jewish people can't join and being gay and selling drugs is not in the idea. They just use the swastika and being a skinhead for effect to scare people.
 
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