Is technological growth currently stagnating?

MrKap

Ad Honorem
Aug 2011
2,349
#31
An iPhone today has more computing power than was used to send the Apollo Astronauts to the moon and it fits in the palm of your hand.
I do wonder if a giant quartz crystal can cycle as a clock, thus represent "computing" power in terms of electromagnetics.

I do remember reading folklore about Lazers and the Lost city of Atlantis. However, finding a good source on this is pretty tough.

Anywhoo. The lost city of atlantis. -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helike

Anyone think Hades might have been nearby?
 
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Sep 2012
907
Prague, Czech Republic
#32
Desktop computers still have some features that are significantly superior to laptops, tablets, and smart phones.
For example, I prefer to type posts and writings and watching videos on desktop computers.
Yes, but your desktop computer is orders of magnitude more powerful than anything that existed in the 90s.

I am quite frankly baffled by those who see technological progress as slowing. Every day at work I sit with a little laptop running analyses that would have required a specialised lab at MIT when I was a child, because that sort of processing power didn't exist. You can see this sort of thing as 'just virtual' if you like, but the whole industry in which I work could not function in the way it does

I carry a library around in my pocket. When it runs out of power I can recharge it using universal sockets found (for example), in buses and taxis. We have bus stops that broadcast wireless internet signals!

If that's not scifi enough for you we have probes landing on other planets and asteroids and broadcasting back to earth. We have artificial satellites in orbit around the sun.

Someone else mentioned CRISPR. We can edit the genomes of living organisms! And to come back to processing power again - look at how we analyse genomic data. The human genome project took a well funded consortium 15 years. Nowadays a graduate student can sequence a genome, and I can run analysis on this on my home computer in spare time that would have produced a major research publication for a university team 15 years ago.

Technology is progressing at an unprecedented rate. I am a still a young man, and yet the world I live in is completely unlike the world in which I lived as a child. Even in Italy.
 

Naomasa298

Forum Staff
Apr 2010
32,021
T'Republic of Yorkshire
#33
In the past year, computers have beaten humans at Go, Waymo is rolling out its completely driverless car, human embryos have been edited to remove the disease beta-thalassemia and Twitter is expanding the size of tweets to 280 characters.

So no, technology is not stagnating. It is moving faster than ever. And the pace of human ignorance has also doubled.
 

Fantasus

Ad Honorem
Jan 2012
2,381
Northern part of European lowland
#34
In the past year, computers have beaten humans at Go, Waymo is rolling out its completely driverless car, human embryos have been edited to remove the disease beta-thalassemia and Twitter is expanding the size of tweets to 280 characters.

So no, technology is not stagnating. It is moving faster than ever. And the pace of human ignorance has also doubled.
Items like vacuum cleaners , refrigerators, cars and many others makes some difference in daily lives. But Go-playing machines?
And driverless cars. Yes. If and when they are out there as a part of the picture. That is more than for test-driving.
Untill then I ask to find more convincing examples.
 

Naomasa298

Forum Staff
Apr 2010
32,021
T'Republic of Yorkshire
#35
Items like vacuum cleaners , refrigerators, cars and many others makes some difference in daily lives. But Go-playing machines?
The point being that Go was considered the next AI challenge, an order of magnitude more difficult than chess. And the program has now improved by playing itself, and human players have said it has used strategies they have never seen. In other words, in a few months, the program has surpassed the sum total of human knowledge of the game.

The technology will have other applications.
 
Oct 2013
6,078
Planet Nine, Oregon
#37
In the past year, computers have beaten humans at Go, Waymo is rolling out its completely driverless car, human embryos have been edited to remove the disease beta-thalassemia and Twitter is expanding the size of tweets to 280 characters.

So no, technology is not stagnating. It is moving faster than ever. And the pace of human ignorance has also doubled.
^Exactly, Kaficek and Naomasa298. :)
 

AlpinLuke

Ad Honoris
Oct 2011
25,220
Lago Maggiore, Italy
#39
Out of journalistic sensational articles, there is a basic trouble about AIs ... the SW engineers projecting them. They are human.

Regarding chess, being a decent chess player I have faced an AI as a test. It's substantially invincible [Kasparov knows something about ...].

It's not about only calculation capabilities [chess is also about fantasy ... personally I have won matches simply using fantasy]. It's about projections connections. A neural net can surpass human brain in rational multi dimensional elaboration. No doubt.

But ok ... will these AIs improve my daily life?

I'm waiting ... [to lose my job as IT manager, probably ... substituted by an AI ...].
 
Oct 2013
6,078
Planet Nine, Oregon
#40
Out of journalistic sensational articles, there is a basic trouble about AIs ... the SW engineers projecting them. They are human.

Regarding chess, being a decent chess player I have faced an AI as a test. It's substantially invincible [Kasparov knows something about ...].

It's not about only calculation capabilities [chess is also about fantasy ... personally I have won matches simply using fantasy]. It's about projections connections. A neural net can surpass human brain in rational multi dimensional elaboration. No doubt.

But ok ... will these AIs improve my daily life?

I'm waiting ... [to lose my job as IT manager, probably ... substituted by an AI ...].
Yeah, AI will work from the top down --first as an advisor, then taking away jobs, robots will work from the bottom up. Human workers = toast.
 

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