Jesus born in africa and black era

Oct 2015
5,118
Matosinhos Portugal
#1
By Douglas Belchior

The text I reply here was shared in 2012, by the friend Jonathan Marcelino, and is authored by Hernani Francisco da Silva, originally published by Afrokut.

When I read, I immediately remembered a passage from the movie "Ali," about the life of Mohammad Ali, in discussion with his father, said he would not make a living painting a "blue-eyed Jesus."

Jesus and his boy are of African origin, hid among the blacks to be confused with them ... and for those who believe, there are the biblical sources.



Jesus was born in Africa. The Gospels explicitly state that Jesus was born in "Bethlehem of Judah in the time of King Herod" (Mt 2,1 cf. 2: 5, 6, 8, 16), (Lk 2, 4:15), (Jn 7: 40-43) .

In ancient times, including the time of Jesus, Bethlehem of Judah was considered part of Africa. Until the construction of the Suez Canal, Israel was part of Africa. This view was to last until 1859, when the French engineer Ferdinand de Lesseps set out to build the Suez Canal. From there, it was Africa separated not only geographically, but especially historically, culturally and anthropologically from what we now call the Middle East. That millenary extension of Africa happens to appear on the maps as if it were Asia.

Jesus, a man with burnished bronze feet, jasper and sardine-colored skin and hair like lamb's wool

Jesus had a black presence in the family line. The genealogy of Jesus was mixed with the line of Cam from the times how much the viagra passed past in captivity in Egypt and in Babylon. In the ancestors of Jesus through Cam, the feminine side of this mixture, there are five women mentioned in the genealogy of Jesus Christ (Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, Bathebah and Mary) (Matthew 1: 1-16). The first ladies mentioned were of Cam's descent. Thus, Jesus can be ethnically acclaimed by the Semitic peoples and descendants of Cam.

Jesus was from the tribe of Judah, one of the African tribes of Israel. Male ancestors of Jesus come from the line of Shem (mixed). However, the genealogy of Jesus was mixed with the line of Ham since the days of captivity in Egypt and Babylon. Jesus' ancestor through Cam is narrated in Genesis 38: then Tamar the Canaanite (Black) woman becomes pregnant with Judah, and gives birth to the twins Zerah and Perez, forming the Tribe of Judah, ancestors of King David and Joseph and Mary, the earthly parents of Jesus.

If Jesus were white, blue-eyed blond, it would have been difficult for him and his family to hide among the black Egyptians unnoticed.

Jesus hid himself among the Blacks. It was not by chance that God sent Mary and Joseph to Egypt for the purpose of hiding Jesus' child from King Herod (Matthew 2:13). He could not have been hiding in North Africa if he were a white boy. Not for military protection since at that time Egypt was a Roman province under Roman control, but because Egypt was still a country inhabited by black people. Thus Joseph, Mary, and Jesus would have been just another black family among the blacks who had fled to Egypt to hide Jesus from Herod, who was trying to kill the boy. If Jesus were white, blue-eyed blond, it would have been difficult for him and his family to hide among the black Egyptians unnoticed. The Hebrew people were very similar to the Egyptian people, otherwise it would have been difficult to recognize a Hebrew family among the Black Egyptians.

It was in Egypt that the people of Israel had their pinnacle of blackness. Seventy Israelites entered Egypt and stayed there for 430 years, thirty years the Israelites were guests, and 400 years captive in Egypt, they and their descendants married non-Israelites, reaching more than 600,000 men, women and children. A mixed multitude came out of Egypt. Ethnically, their ancestors were a combination of Afro-Asians.

Jesus era semelhante pedra de jaspe e de sardônio. Em apocalipse a Bíblia continua mostrando a negritude de Jesus. Ele é chamado o Cordeiro de Deus segundo as Escritura Sagrada, com seu cabelo lanoso, sendo comparado a lã de cordeiro, e os pés com a cor de bronze queimado (Apocalipse 1:15), com uma aparência semelhante pedra de jaspe e de sardônio (Apocalipse 4:3), que são geralmente pedras amarronzadas. As cores de jaspe e sardônio não são únicas e absolutas, são diversas cores.
 

Belgarion

Ad Honorem
Jul 2011
6,603
Australia
#2
While Jesus was obviously not the blue eyed, light brown haired European featured man we see in medieval images, I doubt very much he was a negroid African either. No doubt he looked much like many inhabitants of the middle east today. A black haired, brown eyed man with semitic features.
 
Jan 2018
283
Netherlands
#3
By Douglas Belchior
In ancient times, including the time of Jesus, Bethlehem of Judah was considered part of Africa. Until the construction of the Suez Canal, Israel was part of Africa. This view was to last until 1859, when the French engineer Ferdinand de Lesseps set out to build the Suez Canal. From there, it was Africa separated not only geographically, but especially historically, culturally and anthropologically from what we now call the Middle East. That millenary extension of Africa happens to appear on the maps as if it were Asia.
Considered part of Africa by whom? Ancient writers like Pliny and Ptolemy, medieval writers like Isidore of Seville, world maps of c. 1600, c. 1700 and c. 1800, and a host of other sources from the last two thousand years have placed Palestine firmly in Asia.
 
Mar 2017
868
Colorado
#4
If Jesus were white, blue-eyed blond, it would have been difficult for him and his family to hide among the black Egyptians unnoticed.
What? Was he down in Nubia, or something? Do the sources say he was in Kush or Egypt? North Egypt, Alexandria-ish had a mixture of Mediterranean races ... mainly Greek, some Syrian, a big Jewish community (not sure what "race" Jews were at the time, Middle Eastern ... I suppose).

Almost to the 3rd cataract, Egyptians were "golden" skinned. Haven't you seen the pictures? The "really" white guys are Nabateans from North Africa (not clear if they're going "commando"). I think the guys in the colored kilts w/ dangles are Syrians. The very dark guys are Nubians from Kush (Nubia is the region, Kush is the empire).

Difficult for a dark skinned man to "hide" in "Egypt" ... although not clear why that would be necessary. Hide from who? Herod's henchmen? I don't think the Romans, or Egyptian administrators, would tolerate a bunch of foreign assassins wandering around their country. Egypt had no love for Judea ... in fact, it was the exact opposite.

My copy of Matthew 2 says:
"13 When they had gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream. “Get up,” he said, “take the child and his mother and escape to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is going to search for the child to kill him.”

14 So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night and left for Egypt,
15 where he stayed until the death of Herod. And so was fulfilled what the Lord had said through the prophet: “Out of Egypt I called my son.”
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--- I don't see any "hiding". Looks like they wisely moved to another country where infanticide wasn't a national priority. If they wanted to live unnoticed, then they would probably have to be light/brown/golden skinned? It definitely doesn't say "Out of Kush I called my son." Just sayin.



Sure you're not confusing this with Ptolemy Caesar, the Caesarion? Caesar & Cleopatra's son? Augustus killed him, multiple authors say so ... and yet a guy popped up in India a couple of decades later, impressing people religiously somehow, and claiming to be the Caesarion. He would have been 36 yrs old at the turn of BCE/ACE. This website claims he was the "real" Jesus. Just sayin' (again) ....
http://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=287http://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=287
 
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Mar 2017
868
Colorado
#5
Mar 2017
868
Colorado
#6
Jesus era semelhante pedra de jaspe e de sardônio. Em apocalipse a Bíblia continua mostrando a negritude de Jesus. Ele é chamado o Cordeiro de Deus segundo as Escritura Sagrada, com seu cabelo lanoso, sendo comparado a lã de cordeiro, e os pés com a cor de bronze queimado (Apocalipse 1:15), com uma aparência semelhante pedra de jaspe e de sardônio (Apocalipse 4:3), que são geralmente pedras amarronzadas. As cores de jaspe e sardônio não são únicas e absolutas, são diversas cores.

You teased me with this. How was I supposed to know this was Revelations in Portuguese? Figuring out that Apocalipse=Revelations was harder than I guess it should have been (I don't know Revelations).

AN English translation goes like this:
Revelation 1:14-16.
"His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength."

As this website (Did Jesus have skin liken unto the color of bronze?) says:
"As with many descriptions in the book of Revelation, this description of Christ is figurative."
 
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May 2016
811
Vatican occupied America
#7
The whole original post is pure delusion and falsehood. LatinoEuropa why did you post this text. Afrocentric Racists are not any saner than the European ones such as the English who claim they were the lost tribe of Israel. One should not have to deal with their nonsense again and again at a history forum.

Jesus certainly was not a blond, though he may of been blue or green eyed. No one who knew him ever gave a description of him, so time travelers and supernatural beings alone know what he looked like, though he almost certainly was a brunette and most likely brown eyed. Likely also olive skinned, though unlikely to have been as darked skinned as the Arabs by blood rather than just culture.
 
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Mar 2017
868
Colorado
#8
The whole original post is pure delusion and falsehood. LatinoEuropa why did you post this text. Afrocentric Racists are not any saner than the European ones such as the English who claim they were the lost tribe of Israel. One should not have to deal with their nonsense again and again at a history forum.

Jesus certainly was not a blond, though he may of been blue or green eyed. No one who knew him ever gave a description of him, so time travelers and supernatural beings alone know what he looked like, though he almost certainly was a brunette and most likely brown eyed. Likely also olive skinned, though unlikely to have been as darked skinned as the Arabs by blood rather than just culture.
Agree
 
Sep 2012
947
Tarkington, Texas
#9
The Egyptians considered Canaan as part of Asia. They also built the first Canal that went from the Nile to the Red Sea. Unfortunately they quit dredging it and it filled in again. I personally picture Jesus as Semitic looking with curly hair. These European depictions of Jesus show him as Blond and Blue eyed. In Africa (like in Ethiopia) I am sure he resembles the local people. Look the all the ways ways Mary, his Mother, is depicted.

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