Just how much did the Hindenburg Line benefit Germany and hurt the Entente?

Futurist

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Just how much did the Hindenburg Line benefit Germany and hurt the Entente? I know that this line allowed Germany to shorten the length of the front lines in the West and thus to divert some of its military manpower to other fronts. However, was this actually decisive? As in, without the construction of the Hindenburg Line, would the CPs have collapsed and lost the war earlier than they did in real life? Any thoughts on this?
 
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Just how much did the Hindenburg Line benefit Germany and hurt the Entente? I know that this line allowed Germany to shorten the length of the front lines in the West and thus to divert some of its military manpower to other fronts. However, was this actually decisive? As in, without the construction of the Hindenburg Line, would the CPs have collapsed and lost the war earlier than they did in real life? Any thoughts on this?
Definitely

The Hindenburg Line gave the impression of greater strength and resources than the Germans really had. if the Allies had realized just how on their last legs the Germans really were, they war would have ended far faster.
 
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Definitely

The Hindenburg Line gave the impression of greater strength and resources than the Germans really had. if the Allies had realized just how on their last legs the Germans really were, they war would have ended far faster.
I thought that moving through the Hindenburg Line for the Entente would have been very difficult for logistical reasons due to the Germans' scorched earth policy in the territory surrounding the Hindenburg Line?
 

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It's impossible to be certain, but I tend to think the Arras offensive as originally conceived might have been, if not perhaps decisive, at least an important Entente victory had the Germans not withdrawn to the Hindenburg line before it kicked off. If the level of victory at Vimy Ridge was repeated along the whole front - and I think it could have been - things would have been very bad for Germany in the west.

That is, of course, entirely opinion.
 
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Kotromanic

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Engineering and being rapid in making concrete works was a strength of that German army. Overall they likely had better hygenic conditions than the Entente. That might be the real what if, what if their abilities as engineers was spread as thinly as it was for the Russians, Turks or Italians? Would have lost more manpower to illness.
 
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Engineering and being rapid in making concrete works was a strength of that German army. Overall they likely had better hygenic conditions than the Entente. That might be the real what if, what if their abilities as engineers was spread as thinly as it was for the Russians, Turks or Italians? Would have lost more manpower to illness.
Would losing more manpower to illness have been decisive, in your honest opinion?
 

Kotromanic

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Would losing more manpower to illness have been decisive, in your honest opinion?
Ask the Austrians? Ask the Italians?

Losing manpower meant eventual defeat, esp. since the CP had no access to French colonial, UK Imperial or USA replacements.
 
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Ask the Austrians? Ask the Italians?

Losing manpower meant eventual defeat, esp. since the CP had no access to French colonial, UK Imperial or USA replacements.
That's a good point. It's quite interesting that it took four years of manpower losses for the CPs to actually go down, though. Plus, even then, Germany could have lasted a bit longer had it been able to avoid hunger and keep things steady on the home front.