KING VIKRAMADITYA RULED FROM INDONESIA TO ARABIA

Dec 2019
6
Goa
As a true Indian I strongly belive that King Vikramaditya Ruled from Arabia to Indonesia.
We are not told true history of Indian and its beloved kings. What do you think? I bet most of the people not be knowing him.

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Dec 2019
6
Goa
A reference to king Vikramaditya comes in an inscription found in the Kaaba in Mecca [1]. The text of the inscription, supposedly found inscribed on a gold dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine, is said to have recorded in a volume known as Sayar-ul-Okul (meaning, memorable words) treasured in the Makhtab-e-Sultania library in Istanbul, Turkey.

Following are the Arabic wording of the inscription reproduced in Roman script:

“…Itrashaphai Santu Ibikramatul Phahalameen Karimun Yartapheeha Wayosassaru Bihillahaya Samaini Ela Motakabberen Sihillaha Yuhee Quid min howa Yapakhara phajjal asari nahone osirom bayjayhalem. Yundan blabin Kajan blnaya khtoryaha sadunya kanateph netephi bejehalin Atadari bilamasa- rateen phakef tasabuhu kaunnieja majekaralhada walador. As hmiman burukankad toluho watastaru hihila Yakajibaymana balay kulk amarena phaneya jaunabilamary Bikramatum…” (Sayar-ul-okul, pg. 315).

Rendered in free English the inscription reads as follows:

“…Fortunate are those who were born (and lived) during king [Vikramaditya’s] reign. He was a noble, generous dutiful ruler, devoted to the welfare of his subjects. But at that time we Arabs, oblivious of God, were lost in sensual pleasures. Plotting and torture were rampant. The darkness of ignorance had enveloped our country. Like the lamb struggling for her life in the cruel paws of a wolf we Arabs were caught up in ignorance. The entire country was enveloped in a darkness so intense as on a new moon night. But the present dawn and pleasant sunshine of education is the result of the favour of the noble king Vikramaditya whose benevolent supervision did not lose sight of us – foreigners as we were. He spread his sacred religion amongst us and sent scholars whose brilliance shone like that of the sun from his country to ours. These scholars and preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again made cognisant of the presence of God, introduced to His sacred existence and put on the road of Truth, had come to our country to preach their religion and impart education at king Vikramaditya’s behest…”
 
Dec 2019
6
Goa
Why do you think he ruled from Arabia to Indonesia?

A reference to king Vikramaditya comes in an inscription found in the Kaaba in Mecca [1]. The text of the inscription, supposedly found inscribed on a gold dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine, is said to have recorded in a volume known as Sayar-ul-Okul (meaning, memorable words) treasured in the Makhtab-e-Sultania library in Istanbul, Turkey.

Following are the Arabic wording of the inscription reproduced in Roman script:

“…Itrashaphai Santu Ibikramatul Phahalameen Karimun Yartapheeha Wayosassaru Bihillahaya Samaini Ela Motakabberen Sihillaha Yuhee Quid min howa Yapakhara phajjal asari nahone osirom bayjayhalem. Yundan blabin Kajan blnaya khtoryaha sadunya kanateph netephi bejehalin Atadari bilamasa- rateen phakef tasabuhu kaunnieja majekaralhada walador. As hmiman burukankad toluho watastaru hihila Yakajibaymana balay kulk amarena phaneya jaunabilamary Bikramatum…” (Sayar-ul-okul, pg. 315).

Rendered in free English the inscription reads as follows:

“…Fortunate are those who were born (and lived) during king [Vikramaditya’s] reign. He was a noble, generous dutiful ruler, devoted to the welfare of his subjects. But at that time we Arabs, oblivious of God, were lost in sensual pleasures. Plotting and torture were rampant. The darkness of ignorance had enveloped our country. Like the lamb struggling for her life in the cruel paws of a wolf we Arabs were caught up in ignorance. The entire country was enveloped in a darkness so intense as on a new moon night. But the present dawn and pleasant sunshine of education is the result of the favour of the noble king Vikramaditya whose benevolent supervision did not lose sight of us – foreigners as we were. He spread his sacred religion amongst us and sent scholars whose brilliance shone like that of the sun from his country to ours. These scholars and preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again made cognisant of the presence of God, introduced to His sacred existence and put on the road of Truth, had come to our country to preach their religion and impart education at king Vikramaditya’s behest…”
 
Oct 2018
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Sydney
As a true Indian I strongly belive that King Vikramaditya Ruled from Arabia to Indonesia.
Ideally one's national identity shouldn't govern one's historical opinions. The quote itself doesn't strike me as sufficient evidence for Vikramaditya's rule in Arabia. It doesn't speak of rule, but the sending of missionaries and scholars.
 

AlpinLuke

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Oct 2011
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Italy, Lago Maggiore
As for I know he's a legendary figure [a part being the name of an Indian carrier].

Nationalist reading of history is not allowed on Historum, so that the destiny of this thread [and of its author] is quite easy to predict if he cannot historically demonstrate that

1. Vikramaditya really existed;
2. that he ruled on all those lands ...

P.S. to use Hinduism.org as source is not exactly a great choice. A part Hinduism.org, are there other sources regarding the historicity of Vikramaditya?

P.S. 2: in good substance, this King reminds me the figure of King Arthur about literary construction.
 
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kandal

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Aug 2015
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There is no historicity to King Vikramaditya. It is one example of certain legends from Indian mythologies being fabricated and peddled as real history. This is fake history.
 

specul8

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Oct 2016
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A reference to king Vikramaditya comes in an inscription found in the Kaaba in Mecca [1]. The text of the inscription, supposedly found inscribed on a gold dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine, is said to have recorded in a volume known as Sayar-ul-Okul (meaning, memorable words) treasured in the Makhtab-e-Sultania library in Istanbul, Turkey.

Following are the Arabic wording of the inscription reproduced in Roman script:

“…Itrashaphai Santu Ibikramatul Phahalameen Karimun Yartapheeha Wayosassaru Bihillahaya Samaini Ela Motakabberen Sihillaha Yuhee Quid min howa Yapakhara phajjal asari nahone osirom bayjayhalem. Yundan blabin Kajan blnaya khtoryaha sadunya kanateph netephi bejehalin Atadari bilamasa- rateen phakef tasabuhu kaunnieja majekaralhada walador. As hmiman burukankad toluho watastaru hihila Yakajibaymana balay kulk amarena phaneya jaunabilamary Bikramatum…” (Sayar-ul-okul, pg. 315).

Rendered in free English the inscription reads as follows:

“…Fortunate are those who were born (and lived) during king [Vikramaditya’s] reign. He was a noble, generous dutiful ruler, devoted to the welfare of his subjects. But at that time we Arabs, oblivious of God, were lost in sensual pleasures. Plotting and torture were rampant. The darkness of ignorance had enveloped our country. Like the lamb struggling for her life in the cruel paws of a wolf we Arabs were caught up in ignorance. The entire country was enveloped in a darkness so intense as on a new moon night. But the present dawn and pleasant sunshine of education is the result of the favour of the noble king Vikramaditya whose benevolent supervision did not lose sight of us – foreigners as we were. He spread his sacred religion amongst us and sent scholars whose brilliance shone like that of the sun from his country to ours. These scholars and preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again made cognisant of the presence of God, introduced to His sacred existence and put on the road of Truth, had come to our country to preach their religion and impart education at king Vikramaditya’s behest…”



" .... foreigners as we were. " - in their own country . :D

What a blunder in writing up fake history !

Its like the boy that truanted off school and the next day bought a note explaining his absence , signed ;

" My Mother . " :D



Can we see this inscription ? No sorry , its inside somewhere that you will NEVER see ... but its there ! Take his word for it .
 
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specul8

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Oct 2016
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As for I know he's a legendary figure [a part being the name of an Indian carrier].

Nationalist reading of history is not allowed on Historum, so that the destiny of this thread [and of its author] is quite easy to predict if he cannot historically demonstrate that

1. Vikramaditya really existed;
2. that he ruled on all those lands ...

P.S. to use Hinduism.org as source is not exactly a great choice. A part Hinduism.org, are there other sources regarding the historicity of Vikramaditya?

P.S. 2: in good substance, this King reminds me the figure of King Arthur about literary construction.
Isnt his name the equivalent of Prince (king) Valiant - another mythic figure
 

specul8

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Oct 2016
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Australia
There is no historicity to King Vikramaditya. It is one example of certain legends from Indian mythologies being fabricated and peddled as real history. This is fake history.
I think one part of the legend might be true ;

" Vikramaditya, who prided himself on his generosity, was embarrassed and arranged a debate between Manoratha and 100 non-Buddhist scholars. After Manoratha defeated 99 of the scholars, the king and other non-Buddhists shouted him down and humiliated him at the beginning of the last debate. "

- wiki.

We see this on historum still today ! OOI people interrupt a discussion and put up a challenge; 'you must defeat 100 of us in debate ' > historians here do so , OOI are defeated 99 times . But before the deciding conclusion of the 100th debate , the OOI 'scholars' ... " shout them down and humiliate them . "

So, I am not surprised that an Indian legendary hero king shouts down and humiliates someone that has just won 99 out of 100 debates , because they can not handle the conclusion .

should have been called King Adhominem :D .

I mean, what sort of a king ' Often characterized as an ideal king, he is known for his generosity, courage, and patronage of scholars ' ... knocks all the men off the chessboard just before he is checkmated ?
 
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