Large populations that used to live somewhere but no longer do?

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Also, @Abaseen: Why were the Christians in Punjab much more supportive of the Muslim League (according to Wikipedia, at least) than the Sikhs were? Was it because Muslims were more hostile to Sikhs, and if so, why were they more hostile to Sikhs than to Christians?
The Sikh empire in Punjab and other areas (Kashmir and the frontier) was very oppressive for all people except Sikhs and Hindus so there was always a religious divide in the Punjab. Christians were/are considered 'people of the book' thus were trusted more by the Muslims and the Christians were aware of this status and believed they'd be better off, the British also weren't exactly fans of the congress and Christians looked to them for guidance.
 

Naomasa298

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Also, an example from Japan: the Emishi used to live on Honshu and fought against the Japanese Imperial Dynasty. In fact, the title of shogun is a shortened form of the title sei-i taishōgun which was first given to warriors that led expeditions against the Emishi. However, as we know, the Emishi no longer exist today.
They don't, but the Ainu are their descendents. They live in the northern tip of Honshu and on Hokkaido.

Also, evidence exists that some Emishi, in the form of the Northern Fujiwara, were assimilated into the Yamato population.
 

Tulun

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Muslims in Iberia, Sicily, part of the Balkans and other former Ottoman territories, esepcially urban muslim populations, Cretan muslims, also from some parts of the Caucasus (like from present day Armenia)...
 

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Muslims in Iberia, Sicily, part of the Balkans and other former Ottoman territories, esepcially urban muslim populations, Cretan muslims, also from some parts of the Caucasus (like from present day Armenia)...
Good example! For that matter, we can include the Armenian and Greek populations in Anatolia that existed in the early 20th century but are now almost completely gone as a result of ethnic cleansing, genocide, deportations, and emigration. :(
 
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The Sikh empire in Punjab and other areas (Kashmir and the frontier) was very oppressive for all people except Sikhs and Hindus so there was always a religious divide in the Punjab. Christians were/are considered 'people of the book' thus were trusted more by the Muslims and the Christians were aware of this status and believed they'd be better off, the British also weren't exactly fans of the congress and Christians looked to them for guidance.
Why were the Sikhs not oppressive towards Hindus?
 
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Why were the Sikhs not oppressive towards Hindus?
Sikhism and Hinduism have many similarities, the same root. In fact the Indian constitution dosesn't even recognize Sikhism as a separate religion, it only recognizes hinduism and believes Sikhism "came out" of hinduism. Also the Hindus and Sikhs both resented the Muslim emperors that had ruled over them in the past, so it made sense to band together, of course neither community really likes each other now cause of the Khaalistan conflict that's been brewing since the 80s.
 
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Greeks in Minor Asia
Which cases were there where a large population used to live in a particular area but no longer does? So far, I could think of:

-Germans and Jews in both Eastern Europe and the former USSR. There used to be millions of them there but the Holocaust (for Jews), post-WWII expulsions (for Germans), post-WWII emigration, and post-WWII assimilation severely reduced their numbers.
-Poles in the Kresy (the eastern Polish territories until 1939). There used to be millions of them there but due to WWII-era ethnic cleansing (such as the Volhynian massacres in 1943), post-WWII expulsions, and post-WWII migrations, there are now much less of them there.
-Europeans in Algeria and various other parts of Africa (Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Eritrea, et cetera). There used to be a lot of them there (a million in Algeria alone), but post-WWII migration (in large part as a result of decolonization) severely reduced their numbers. Nowadays only the southern cone of Africa has a large European population, to my knowledge.
-Jews in the Muslim world. There used to be up to a million of them there but almost all of them have since emigrated--primarily to Israel and to a much lesser extent to France and other countries.
-Indians in Uganda. There was a sizable Indian community there until 1972, which is when Idi Amin expelled them. Nowadays AFAIK the Ugandan Indian community is much smaller than it was before 1972.
-Russians in the other ex-USSR countries. There used to be several million more of them than there are today--though the effect varies by country. For instance, Tajikistan lost almost all of its Russian population, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan lost (I think) slightly more than half their Russian population, and Latvia and Estonia didn't lose too much of their Russian population after 1989.
-Non-Hispanic whites in certain US cities or at least certain parts of them. Some US cities used to have huge non-Hispanic white populations but no longer do anywhere near to the same extent--for instance, Gary, Indiana, Detroit, Michigan, and Youngstown, Ohio. Also, some US cities still have sizable non-Hispanic white communities but not in certain neighborhoods which previously used to have them--such as the south side of Chicago. This occurred as a result of white flight over the last 60 or so years. Many whites fled various cities or at least certain parts of various cities and either moved to better parts of these cities or moved to the suburbs in order to escape things such as rising crime rates where they used to live.
-The former Yugoslavia saw some ethnic cleansing after its collapse--with most Serbs being expelled or fleeing from Croatia, southern Kosovo, and the Bosnian-controlled and Croat-controlled parts of Bosnia and Herzegovina while a lot of Bosnians and/or Croats were expelled from Republika Srpska (the Serb-controlled part of Bosnia).
-There were sizable Sikh and Christian communities in western Punjab before the partition of India but these communities have since almost completely disappeared as a result of emigration. Likewise, where were huge Hindu communities in Hyderabad and Karachi which have likewise since disappeared as a result of emigration due to them becoming part of Pakistan during the partition of India. Meanwhile, eastern Punjab had a sizable Muslim population before 1947 but no longer does due to the ethnic cleansing in Punjab that accompanied the 1947 partition of India. Also, for what it's worth, there is still a sizable Hindu community in Bangladesh nowadays but it's much less than it was before 1947.

Anyway, which additional examples of this have there been throughout history?
Yeah, I forgot to mention both Greeks and Armenians in eastern Anatolia here. There were sizable communities of them there before WWI but the ethnic cleansing and genocide of WWI and the aftermath of WWI caused these communities to almost completely disappear from eastern Anatolia. :(

Also, I forgot to mention the exodus of Christians from Iraq in recent years. :(
 
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