Long-lasting national rivalries

Maki

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Jan 2017
2,344
Republika Srpska
#11
Serbia/the Serbs and the Hungarians were rivals from around the start of the 13th century (although the Magyars also killed Serbian Prince Časlav in the 10th century) until 1945.
 
Sep 2016
804
Georgia
#14
I would also add France and Spain, who were in a state off near-constant on-and-off again conflict from the early 16th century with the ascension of Charles V as king until the conclusion of the War of Devolution in 1668, a period of roughly 150 years.
It started before Charles V ascension. France and Spain were already fighting in 1501 - 1504. Then during next War of League Cambrai as well. French even defeated Spanish in Battle of Ravenna in 1512.

Conclusion was also not in 1668, but in 1697. After War of Devolution, Spain again fought France in Dutch War, War of Reunions and Nine Years War.
 

Tulius

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May 2016
4,884
Portugal
#15
It started before Charles V ascension. France and Spain were already fighting in 1501 - 1504. Then during next War of League Cambrai as well. French even defeated Spanish in Battle of Ravenna in 1512.

Conclusion was also not in 1668, but in 1697. After War of Devolution, Spain again fought France in Dutch War, War of Reunions and Nine Years War.
Indeed, we can say that it started with the union of the Crowns of Castile and Aragon, meaning, with the Catholic Monarchs.

While separated Castile was traditionally an ally of France, while Aragon was traditionally an enemy.
 
Likes: Gvelion
Mar 2014
1,848
Lithuania
#17
Lithuanians-Russians started in 13th century continues until today, just today it is not rivalry anymore, just bitter animosity from Lithuania side. From Russian side, Lithuania is just split of territory. :D

P. S. It goes to unbelievable lengths, for example renegade Lithuanian duke, that murdered first Lithuanian king and his sons is Russian Pravoslav saint. Try to beat that.
 
Sep 2012
3,679
Bulgaria
#18
Lithuanians-Russians started in 13th century continues until today, just today it is not rivalry anymore, just bitter animosity from Lithuania side. From Russian side, Lithuania is just split of territory. :D

P. S. It goes to unbelievable lengths, for example renegade Lithuanian duke, that murdered first Lithuanian king and his sons is Russian Pravoslav saint. Try to beat that.
Daumantas was an orthodox christian and Mindaugas reverted back to his ancestral religion / rejected christianity ergo he was an apostate. It was more about religion methinks.
 
Mar 2014
1,848
Lithuania
#19
Daumantas was an orthodox christian and Mindaugas reverted back to his ancestral religion / rejected christianity ergo he was an apostate. It was more about religion methinks.
No one knows for sure, but Mindaugas most likely was Catholic at the moment of his death. Daumantas at the moment of killing Mindaugas most likely was just pagan. There is explanation of Daumantas act that in my opinion is just fairytaile. Supposedly, Mindaugas wife died and he wanted to replace it with her sister - Daumantas wife. Mindaugas simply took Daumantas wife and Daumantas in revenge killed Mindaugas and his two sons. Most likely it was just attempt to take power. Daumantas killed Mindaugas and his sons for power and when his rebellion failed to dominate Lithuania he run away to Russia, got baptized as Ortodox and had happy life eve after. How he become Orthodox Saint I never understood, he was able war leader and administrator, but Saint? ...
 

MAGolding

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Aug 2015
2,659
Chalfont, Pennsylvania
#20
To me one very obvious candidate is the rivalry between the Roman and Persian empires. It started at least as early as 53 BC when Crassus was defeated at the Battle of Carrhae May 6, 53 BC, and only ended after the Roman-Persian war of AD 602-628 left both empires weak and ripe for Arab conquest. Thus the Roman/Persian rivalry lasted for at least 680 years from 53 BC or 9948 HE to AD 628 or 10628 HE. And it may have begun years or decades before 53 BC as Rome and Parthia expanded in the Middle East.

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Fanciful persons might consider this Roman-Persian rivalry to be a continuation of the rivalry between Greeks and Persians for over 200 years until 330 BC.

And Herodotus in his history claimed that the Greek-Persian wars were a continuation of the rivalry between Europe and Asia that started with the mythical Trojan War. Believe it or not.
 

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