Made in India instead of made in China

Devdas

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Apr 2015
5,118
India
I don't think there is any one shot easy solution here. There are just too many hurdles with respect to India, and most are related to culture such as behaviors, discipline, work ethic, corruption and so on. There has to be major changes in the Indian society, but Indians are very resistant to cultural change, compared to the Far easterners. India will progress, but it will be in its own way. Will it ever be a modern nation? I am not so sure.
India's problem is too much socialism. India need to get rid of the left leaning economic model for the sustainable economic growth.
 
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Naomasa298

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Apr 2010
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T'Republic of Yorkshire
India's problem is trustworthiness.

There's a reason why all the spammers that come here have Indian IP addresses.
 

Devdas

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Apr 2015
5,118
India
If you think India's policies are socialistic then your country is in serious trouble.
I know. Whenever there is a project sanctioned in India, suddenly so many protests groups and court petitions pop up and even foreign funded NGOs wants to share a slice in that pie. Good thing is current generation of Indians are not so enticed with socialist ideology.
 

Larrey

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Sep 2011
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I don't think it's either primarily untrustworthiness in general, or directly Socialism for that matter. I would consider both secondary effects of the Indian economy for a fairly long time being more or less a closed shop – a largely self-sustaining national economy with limited exposure to international standards, even relatively limited exports and imports.

So it is a cultural thing, but one most likely based on Indian business being rather inward looking, where people operating on the inside have learned how to navigate it, but where outsiders are precisely relatively easy marks for the less discriminating.

How India shifts out of that is a challenge, but I wouldn't generally assume there to be relatively more hustlers in India than in China. They might be differently distributed, and exposure to them as well. What there clearly seems to be a lack of in India is low-cost production industry specifically set up to handle international customers, unlike so far in China. (And now that business seems to be moving away to fx Vietnam, but not India).

As seems confirmed by some of the comments here, you can do business in India, but you need a trusted local contact, someone in the inside of the Indian business community, to steer you safely through the place. While in China, or Vietnam, you can generally quickly find and deal directly with the segment of production industry catering to foreign customers.
 

Naomasa298

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Apr 2010
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T'Republic of Yorkshire
There are problems in dealing with China, which are also due to trustworthiness.

One common issue is, your sample product looks great, and maybe the first shipment is too. But then the second shipment is shoddy, and the supplier has your money.
 

Dan Howard

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Aug 2014
5,260
Australia
There are problems in dealing with China, which are also due to trustworthiness.

One common issue is, your sample product looks great, and maybe the first shipment is too. But then the second shipment is shoddy, and the supplier has your money.
It is worse in India. The only way to guarantee quality is to send your own people over to oversee every step of the operation. It is cheaper to use labour from a country that doesn't require such strict supervision. It can happen in China, too, but it is the exception these days, not the norm.
 
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Aug 2018
665
Southern Indiana
I've found it impossible to do business with Indian companies. They tend to tell you whatever they think you want to hear instead of giving honest information about their practices. I've found it far easier to work with Chinese companies. Whenever I need something that was made by an Indian manufacturer I've been forced to deal with their distributor in a Western country. It is worth paying extra for the distributor to do the quality control and to get protection from local consumer laws.
ABSOLUTELY, I am a small business owner who imports and at this point would never try India again. Chinese quality and service have improved over the years, India still tries to cut corners and make a quick buck with no thought for the future.
 
Aug 2018
665
Southern Indiana
There are problems in dealing with China, which are also due to trustworthiness.

One common issue is, your sample product looks great, and maybe the first shipment is too. But then the second shipment is shoddy, and the supplier has your money.
The problem is there are so many middle men who don't make anything, they let you believe they are a manufacturer, but they just hire a factory to make what you want, then they keep looking for a cheaper supplier and your second batch ends up crappy quality from a different manufacturer.
 
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