Maltepe - no analogue in the world

Aug 2019
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Livingston 62° 38′ 27″ S, 60° 22′ 0.98″ W
Maltepe - no analogue in the world: What secrets is the ancient mound near Plovdiv? An 8-storey Roman tower, buried in the ancient Maltepe Mound near the Plovdiv village of Manole, is the only one of its size in the world. The tower is of stone construction Archaeologists have reached a depth of about 15 meters, leaving them another 4 meters to the base.
According to excavation manager Konstantin Kisyov, the entire southern wall will be revealed by the end of October. The weight of the tower is about 1,200 tonnes. “There was a pedestal in 5 rows at the top of the top, weighing nearly 15 tonnes. At the top was mounted a statue for which no fragments were found. The purpose of the tower is to hold the pedestal, along with the statue. ”But who she was, is still unknown. For the time being, no one can say for sure what there is in the recently discovered huge gallery away from the tower. According to archaeologists, this could be the tomb of an emperor or a Thracian king. The team of archeologists has found that the gallery is about 15 meters underground. It is expected that more details will become clear when the entrance to this unique facility is discovered. The archaeological materials discovered so far - coins, earthenware and marble architectural elements, date the construction of the tower and the erection of the tombstone in the period II - III AD.
Among the new discoveries are broken into pieces a capitol from a colonnade with columns that are supposed to have been 3.8 meters high and supporting a 20-meter tower. At its top were stone blocks weighing 50 tons.
It is alleged that they held a statue that Kisyov hopes to find in ongoing investigations http://static.bnr.bg/gallery/cr/212a1e7dc1ecca82ab26f7a4c1dd1de5.jpeg?fbclid=IwAR3td9nWq0eQBinkN5oKi8tnHiJiV7qRKt6bQ2pNvsi33b8aJOtdcRc6xN0
 

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Sep 2019
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Antioch
According to "The Sofia Globe" the Maltepe mount appears to be quite similar in size and layout to the (similarly periodized) tomb of Emperor Carinus Augustus in Viminacium.
 
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Jul 2017
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Neverland
Maltepe - no analogue in the world: What secrets is the ancient mound near Plovdiv? An 8-storey Roman tower, buried in the ancient Maltepe Mound near the Plovdiv village of Manole, is the only one of its size in the world. The tower is of stone construction Archaeologists have reached a depth of about 15 meters, leaving them another 4 meters to the base.
According to excavation manager Konstantin Kisyov, the entire southern wall will be revealed by the end of October. The weight of the tower is about 1,200 tonnes. “There was a pedestal in 5 rows at the top of the top, weighing nearly 15 tonnes. At the top was mounted a statue for which no fragments were found. The purpose of the tower is to hold the pedestal, along with the statue. ”But who she was, is still unknown. For the time being, no one can say for sure what there is in the recently discovered huge gallery away from the tower. According to archaeologists, this could be the tomb of an emperor or a Thracian king. The team of archeologists has found that the gallery is about 15 meters underground. It is expected that more details will become clear when the entrance to this unique facility is discovered. The archaeological materials discovered so far - coins, earthenware and marble architectural elements, date the construction of the tower and the erection of the tombstone in the period II - III AD.
Among the new discoveries are broken into pieces a capitol from a colonnade with columns that are supposed to have been 3.8 meters high and supporting a 20-meter tower. At its top were stone blocks weighing 50 tons.
It is alleged that they held a statue that Kisyov hopes to find in ongoing investigations http://static.bnr.bg/gallery/cr/212a1e7dc1ecca82ab26f7a4c1dd1de5.jpeg?fbclid=IwAR3td9nWq0eQBinkN5oKi8tnHiJiV7qRKt6bQ2pNvsi33b8aJOtdcRc6xN0
I hope these archaeologists , that claim the tomb might be that of a Thracian King are foreigners and not folks digging the new find. Cause, if they are they need to go back to high school. Every historical buff should know by now, that a tomb built in the 2nd or 3rd century AD, CAN NOT be a tomb or a resting place for a..Thracian King , since they were extinguished with the fall of of Thrace to the Romans.

Long story short, we had Roman Emperors of Thracian descent, but NEVER kings of Thracian extraction, since Thrace was already a Roman province. In order to have Thracian Kings, we should have had Thrace repulsing the Roman legions, thus remaining independent...didn't happen.
In Moesia for example when the Romans arrived and demanded submission, Moesians(Thracian themselves) answered..'.who are you' ?

Romans -' Lords of the World !''
'Well, replied the Moesians, you are Lords when you conquer us'

The rest is history
 

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I hope these archaeologists , that claim the tomb might be that of a Thracian King are foreigners and not folks digging the new find. Cause, if they are they need to go back to high school. Every historical buff should know by now, that a tomb built in the 2nd or 3rd century AD, CAN NOT be a tomb or a resting place for a..Thracian King , since they were extinguished with the fall of of Thrace to the Romans.

Long story short, we had Roman Emperors of Thracian descent, but NEVER kings of Thracian extraction, since Thrace was already a Roman province. In order to have Thracian Kings, we should have had Thrace repulsing the Roman legions, thus remaining independent...didn't happen.
In Moesia for example when the Romans arrived and demanded submission, Moesians(Thracian themselves) answered..'.who are you' ?

Romans -' Lords of the World !''
'Well, replied the Moesians, you are Lords when you conquer us'

The rest is history
The mound itself is associated with the Rhoemetalces II, one of the last Thracian rulers of the Odrysian Kingdom, reduced to client state of Rome by the early decades of the 1st century and incorporated into the Roman Empire as a province of Thracia after the murder of his cousin Rhoemetalces III in 46 AD.
 
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Aug 2019
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Livingston 62° 38′ 27″ S, 60° 22′ 0.98″ W
[QUOTE = "Bleda, публикация: 3204602, член: 47978"]
Надявам се, че тези археолози, които твърдят, че гробницата може да е на тракийски цар, са чужденци, а не хора, които копаят новата находка. Защото, ако са, те трябва да се върнат в гимназията. Всеки исторически баф трябва да знае, че гробница, построена през ІІ или ІІІ в. Сл. Хр., НЕ МОЖЕ да бъде гробница или място за почивка на ... Тракийски цар, тъй като те бяха изгасени с падането на Тракия към римляните.

Накратко, имахме римски императори с тракийски произход, но НИКОГА не царе на тракийски добив, тъй като Тракия вече беше римска провинция. За да имаме тракийски царе, трябваше да имаме Тракия да отблъсне римските легиони, като по този начин да останем независими ... не се случи.
Например в Мизия, когато римляните пристигнаха и поискаха подаване, мизийците (самите траки) отговориха ... "кой сте вие"?

Римляни - „Господари на света!“
„Е, отговориха мизийците, вие сте лордове, когато ни завладявате“

Останалото е история
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Jul 2017
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Neverland
The mound itself is associated with the Rhoemetalces II, one of the last Thracian rulers of the Odrysian Kingdom, reduced to client state of Rome by the early decades of the 1st century and incorporated into the Roman Empire as a province of Thracia after the murder of his cousin Rhoemetalces III in 46 AD.
The structure can definitely seem out of character for an ancient Thracian architecture. It will be a quantum leap of faith for an ancient people like the Thrax, that most likely came to the Balkans at least 3600 years ago from what is now Lithuania and Latvia, to have produced such an advanced piece of construction before Rome took over. Ancient Thracian design rarely involved moving heavy pieces of stone around. Technology was not there for them.
 

Chlodio

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[QUOTE = "Bleda, публикация: 3204602, член: 47978"]
Надявам се, че тези археолози, които твърдят, че гробницата може да е на тракийски цар, са чужденци, а не хора, които копаят новата находка. Защото, ако са, те трябва да се върнат в гимназията. Всеки исторически баф трябва да знае, че гробница, построена през ІІ или ІІІ в. Сл. Хр., НЕ МОЖЕ да бъде гробница или място за почивка на ... Тракийски цар, тъй като те бяха изгасени с падането на Тракия към римляните.

Накратко, имахме римски императори с тракийски произход, но НИКОГА не царе на тракийски добив, тъй като Тракия вече беше римска провинция. За да имаме тракийски царе, трябваше да имаме Тракия да отблъсне римските легиони, като по този начин да останем независими ... не се случи.
Например в Мизия, когато римляните пристигнаха и поискаха подаване, мизийците (самите траки) отговориха ... "кой сте вие"?

Римляни - „Господари на света!“
„Е, отговориха мизийците, вие сте лордове, когато ни завладявате“

Останалото е история
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Kardam, what happened here? It looks like you're quoting Bleda but he didn't write in Greek (I think?).
 
Sep 2019
24
Antioch
Kardam, what happened here? It looks like you're quoting Bleda but he didn't write in Greek (I think?).
It's Bulgarian, and it seems like he forgot to delete his Google-translated reaction of Bleda when he posted that Youtube video as a response.
 
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