More powerful European power in 1900: Italian or German Empire?

More powerful European state in 1900?

  • German Empire

    Votes: 29 93.5%
  • Italian Empire

    Votes: 2 6.5%

  • Total voters
    31

notgivenaway

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Jun 2015
5,787
UK
Italy has great culture, history, food, women, Serie A, fashion, countryside and cinema.

Italians were even better at making Westerns than Americans. There is also Italian Neo-Realism, movies of Federico Fellini and etc.
History? The Romans weren't Italian lol. Serie A has been depressed since Calciopoli. Italian sides haven't won the Champions league since 2010.

Germany has had great inventors (who else had Italy had bar da Vinci, and he hasn't even an inventor in the strict sense..), great inventions, and many of the top classical composers were German.

Countryside is moot, since the south of Germany is more mountainous than the north. The Rhine and Danube are great rivers, and more picturesque than the Po, or Tiber. The Tiber is only famous since it flows through Rome, and in the Republic/Empire disgraced patricians were left to rot in there after they were executed.
 
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holoow

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Jun 2012
3,863
Vilnius, Lithuania
The old blonde versus brunette argument. :) Historically, this has been one of the more heated debates. ;)
Actually, natural blondes have more hair than natural brunettes. So, blondes win :)
 

Rodger

Ad Honorem
Jun 2014
6,171
US
Actually, natural blondes have more hair than natural brunettes. So, blondes win :)
My wife is a blonde, of German-British descent, so you know where my preference lies. :) The other love of my life was a redhead.
 

xander.XVII

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Nov 2009
3,888
Outer world
History? The Romans weren't Italian lol. Serie A has been depressed since Calciopoli. Italian sides haven't won the Champions league since 2010.

Germany has had great inventors (who else had Italy had bar da Vinci, and he hasn't even an inventor in the strict sense..), great inventions, and many of the top classical composers were German.

Countryside is moot, since the south of Germany is more mountainous than the north. The Rhine and Danube are great rivers, and more picturesque than the Po, or Tiber. The Tiber is only famous since it flows through Rome, and in the Republic/Empire disgraced patricians were left to rot in there after they were executed.
Romans were Italians' ancestors and their imprint on the Italian people is substantial, without even mentioning the fact that Italian is one of the closest language to Latin (excluding Sardinian phonetically speaking). That being said, Marconi, Volta, Meucci, Pugliese, Bernardi, Jacuzzi (well...), Faggin, Natta, Barsanti and Matteucci, Cristofori, D'Ascanio, Galilei, Pacinotti and the list goes on and on, all Italian inventors or people who massively contributed to mankind progress.
The best musical instruments were (and possibly are) produced in Italy (Cristofori also invented the piano, see above), most opera is written in Italian and many of the most important composers in history are Italian: Verdi, Rossini and so forth (which doesn't diminish the importance of German and Austria contribution to music history).
While Italian rivers are less picturesque than German ones, Italy has more variety of landscapes, better mountains, many more artistic, cultural and historical sites, many more "art-cities", a much more known, widespread and influential cuisine and it has definitely more art than Germany (well, it is hard to find a country in Europe that can rival with Italy).
Then, there is no even contest in this poll: Germany was much richer, had infinitely more resources, it inherited better infrastructures and schools and could count on an incredibly skilled chancellor for two decades after the unification. In all measurable terms was above Italy.
 
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Jun 2017
2,988
Connecticut
Both Italy and Germany were unified at roughly the same time, both were late to Empire-building, both focused their attentions primarily on Africa.

Which European great power was more powerful (economically, militarily, and politically) in 1900: the German Empire or the Italian Empire?
Germany. Surprised this poll isn't 100-0. Germany had nearly twice the population of Italy and close to the most industry. Italy was at or near the bottom among great powers in most category's, Germany was at the top at nearly every category.
 
Sep 2016
1,330
Georgia
History? The Romans weren't Italian lol. Serie A has been depressed since Calciopoli. Italian sides haven't won the Champions league since 2010.

Germany has had great inventors (who else had Italy had bar da Vinci, and he hasn't even an inventor in the strict sense..), great inventions, and many of the top classical composers were German.

Countryside is moot, since the south of Germany is more mountainous than the north. The Rhine and Danube are great rivers, and more picturesque than the Po, or Tiber. The Tiber is only famous since it flows through Rome, and in the Republic/Empire disgraced patricians were left to rot in there after they were executed.
In the last 3 decades German teams won Champions League only in 2001,1997 and 2013. Italians won in 1994,1996, 2003, 2007 and 2010. Italians teams also were in 12 Champions League Finals : 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2010, 2015 and 2017. That is much more than the finals for German teams.

Italian teams also were able to win Champions Cup ( what we call now Champions League ) in 1963,1964,1965,1969,1985,1989 and 1990. Again, more than German teams.

AC Milan of the late 80's and early 90's is considered to be as one of the greatest teams in football history.

Italy defeated Germany in 1970, 1982, 2006 and 2012. In 1970 and 2006 Germany was defeated by Italy in the Semi-Final of the World Cup. In 1982 Germany was defeated in the Final of the World Cup.
In 2012 Italy also defeated Germany in the Semi-Final of Euro. Germany defeated Italy in 2016 Euro only by penalty shootout.

When was the last time Germany defeated Italy in the important game of the World Cup ? You need to work on your knowledge of football. Well, I have already schooled you in the thread about French military victories, so it shouldn't be a new thing for you.

Italy had a lot of famous composers as well. You've never heard about Antonio Vivaldi, Guiseppe Verdi or Antonio Salieri ?

Opera was born in Italy, by the way.

I wasn't even talking about Romans lol.
 
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