- Jun 2015
Germany won both the World Cup and European Championships more times than Italy has. For somebody claiming more knowledge, citing meaningless games when Germany has triumphed more overall in the history of international football is comical. Italy got hammered by Spain in 2012 final, even though no country in Europe has won the competition more times than Germany has. Citing old victories is nothing. as of now, Serie A is way behind the other top European leagues. Saying Germany has no culture is false. the only culture Italy claims are a people that existed on the same landmass who were loosely related to them ethnically and culturally. This is the only reason I responded to this point.In the last 3 decades German teams won Champions League only in 2001,1997 and 2013. Italians won in 1994,1996, 2003, 2007 and 2010. Italians teams also were in 12 Champions League Finals : 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2010, 2015 and 2017. That is much more than the finals for German teams.
Italian teams also were able to win Champions Cup ( what we call now Champions League ) in 1963,1964,1965,1969,1985,1989 and 1990. Again, more than German teams.
AC Milan of the late 80's and early 90's is considered to be as one of the greatest teams in football history.
Italy defeated Germany in 1970, 1982, 2006 and 2012. In 1970 and 2006 Germany was defeated by Italy in the Semi-Final of the World Cup. In 1982 Germany was defeated in the Final of the World Cup.
In 2012 Italy also defeated Germany in the Semi-Final of Euro.
When was the last time Germany defeated Italy in the important game of the World Cup ? You need to work on your knowledge of football. Well, I have already schooled you in the thread about French military victories, so it shouldn't be a new thing for you.
Italy had a lot of famous composers as well. You've never heard about Antonio Vivaldi, Guiseppe Verdi or Antonio Salieri ?
Opera was born in Italy, by the way.
I wasn't even talking about Romans lol.
Moreover, I don't recall any old conversation here. you're some random stranger I don't need to care about. you claim you "win" without any real grounding, bar seeking strangers' favours. you're not as bright as you seem since an intelligent person doesn't assume they win anything.
You also forget Bayern Munich, who dominated the European Cup in the mid-1970s, and acknowledged as amongst the best club sides ever. A German holds the record for the most WC finals goals ever (Klose). Borussia Dortmund also has the highest average attendance in world football - how is that for "football knowledge". Italy's club stadiums are crumbling and falling apart, whilst the Allianz Arena, Westparkstadion, amongst others, stand amongst the best grounds in England (Tottenham Hotspur Stadium and Emirates Stadium). It's clear that Germany now has a holisitcally healtier and more successful football set-up than Italy.