Myanmar and Hungary leaders ''agree'' on ''Muslim population challenge''

Sep 2012
3,751
Bulgaria
#21
In the old days commies called everyone right from them, basically everyone who disagrees with their political views, but the anarchists who are in the very extreme of the political spectrum ergo left from the commies, so commies called them all bloody fascists, fascist were everywhere. Today politicians and ordinary ppl who voted for them are branded again as nazi/fasist left and right, these words are in the process to lose their meaning. Please check Jonathan Pie's video. He explains this problem quite well, he is talking mostly about internal British issues, but this prob is global idd.
 

kandal

Ad Honorem
Aug 2015
2,650
USA
#22
If you will forgive me for saying so, you seem to take a very casual attitude toward the persecution of minorities, the Rohingya are long-established in Arakan, the Burmese authorities is not even trying to pretend that thye all 'illegals', and during the last outbreak of violence, in which the Burmese military was centrally implicated, at least a thousand and perhaps many thousands were killed, and some half a million had to flee across the border!
What is the Burmese side of the story? Every story like this have two sides.
Were Rohinhya a peaceful people like the Yazidis?
 
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Linschoten

Ad Honoris
Aug 2010
16,044
Welsh Marches
#23
There has been intercommunal violence from both sides, and constant tension, and some mujahideen activity; but there can be no doubt that they have been consistently persecuted by the Burmese authorities, who would plainly like to drive them out of the country, and they haven't really had a chance to establish good relations with their neighbours.
 

Naomasa298

Forum Staff
Apr 2010
33,143
T'Republic of Yorkshire
#24
What is the Burmese side of the story? Every story like this have two sides.
Were Rohinhya a peaceful people like the Yazidis?
Just because there has been SOME violrnvr and separatism, that is no reason to commit genocide on the entire population.
 

Naomasa298

Forum Staff
Apr 2010
33,143
T'Republic of Yorkshire
#25
It's really strange and disconcerting, she seemed such an admirable person.
What's clear now is that she is an ethnic Burmese nationalist and is prepared to sacrifice minority rights to further that cause. She's no "pro-democracy" paragon - look at her position, "State Counsellor", the de facto leader despite the presence of president. One wonders if she will relinquish political power so easily.

The term "evil vizier" springs to mind.
 
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kandal

Ad Honorem
Aug 2015
2,650
USA
#26
There has been intercommunal violence from both sides, and constant tension, and some mujahideen activity; but there can be no doubt that they have been consistently persecuted by the Burmese authorities, who would plainly like to drive them out of the country, and they haven't really had a chance to establish good relations with their neighbours.
There is a lot of conflicting info about Rohinhyas, as per my quick read on them. They used to be called Bengalis. They seem to be spillover from next door Bengal. They surely look so. Rohinhya seems to be a recent manufactured name to justify their conflicts with the Burmese. Burma continue to address them as Bengalese. If they had lived like the Yazidis in Iraq peacefully, they would have been left alone. But they seem to have taken this tit-for-tat with the Burmese.

Only 400,000 live in Burma now with 1.3 million back in their original homeland Bangladesh.
 

kandal

Ad Honorem
Aug 2015
2,650
USA
#27
Just because there has been SOME violrnvr and separatism, that is no reason to commit genocide on the entire population.
I don't believe there was/is any genocide, like what Turks did to the Armenians with a million killed. I believe Burmese had enough of the communal violence and send them packing to their original homeland, next door Bangladesh. This conflict seems to have some similarity to what is taking place in Kashmir, India.
 

kandal

Ad Honorem
Aug 2015
2,650
USA
#29
The Nobel peace (and others) prize has been awarded to a number of questionnable individuals.... It has never been taken away that I know of
That is right, once a Nobel prize given, is not taken away. Nobel peace prizes can be very controversial. They gave one to terrorist Yasser Arafat. They refused to give to Gandhi. They gave one to Obama whose actions led to the creation of ISIS and rape of the entire Yazidi people. List goes on.
 
Aug 2014
1,249
pakistan
#30
There is a lot of conflicting info about Rohinhyas, as per my quick read on them. They used to be called Bengalis. They seem to be spillover from next door Bengal. They surely look so. .
They are majority in Mayu Frontier district which is adjacent to Bangladesh and is geographically continuation of Chittagong. It seems a part of Chittagong has ended up in Myanmar.


 
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