Napoleon had modern rifles

Jul 2017
414
Memphis
#1
Supposing when they invaded Russia in 1812 the French had all they wanted of the best in ammo, semi-automatic carbines and winter clothing available now and made do with 100,000 troops mainly just French requiring fewer provisions would they have forced the Russians to surrender?
 

Nemowork

Ad Honorem
Jan 2011
8,230
South of the barcodes
#2
No, because youve forgotten the important factor.

Everything has to come on horses, brass loaded ammunition is heavier than black powder.

The French would probably burn through their ammo in the first battle and then be stuck in scorched earth with no food and no bullets.

In the 1860s the US army had developed repeating rifles, they abandonned them in favour of single shot rifles simply because it was impossible to transport enough ammunition and food for dispersed units
 
Aug 2015
2,325
uk
#3
Napoleon wasn't defeated in Russia because of the capability of his army, it was because he couldn't provision his vast army, and even 100,000 men is an enormous number of people to provide for, especially over such long distances and with the enemy adopting a sorched earth policy.

He was also defeated because he was unable to achieve a decisive victory over Russia, with the Tsar wisely deciding to draw the French in before closing the trap, and there is no reason to suggest he would do any different against a better armed force.
 

Poly

Ad Honorem
Apr 2011
6,688
Georgia, USA
#4
Supposing when they invaded Russia in 1812 the French had all they wanted of the best in ammo, semi-automatic carbines and winter clothing available now and made do with 100,000 troops mainly just French requiring fewer provisions would they have forced the Russians to surrender?

What semi-automatic carbines were available in 1812 ?
 

Nemowork

Ad Honorem
Jan 2011
8,230
South of the barcodes
#5
Another factor to consider is that black powder fouls up barrels and mechanisms at astonishing speed, a semi-auto black powder gun would but incapable of shooting with in a few dozen rounds. So we're assuming they have smokeless powder as well?
 

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