Nazism naming


Ad Honorem
Jun 2014
The. First party to use that National term was the PNF of Mussolini ...

National Fascist party "Part. Nazional Fascista"

Then come the

National socialist worker's party "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei"

Of Hitler ...

But usually in history books you read Nazists = germans and fascists = Italians...

So shouln't both of them called Nazists as the main root word of their Party and the nationalism is the root of their programs.
But to distinguish call the first Fascists and the second Socialists?


Forum Staff
Mar 2008
On a mountain top in Costa Rica. yeah...I win!!
Why not Nazional = get it? It is merely a visual trick. Nothing more, nothing less. There is no linguistic rule at work here.


Forum Staff
Oct 2011
Italy, Lago Maggiore
In Italy we often talk about "Nazi-Fascism", putting in a single "ideological" stream both the political extremisms, just to keep a fair historical balance ...

Then, to be historically accurate the two terms have got well different origins.

"Nationalsozialistich" in German came from a curious mix between nationalist and socialist [imagine! Socialism should be universal, not connected to a conception of "nation"].

"Fascista", the adjective, had a connection with the combat "fasci" of the first WW I after war and that name came from the usage of the Latin term "fascis", the object carried by the "littore" in ancient Rome.


Ad Honoris
Dec 2010
Near St. Louis.
When I took German at Purdue they told me the current record length word in German was TheCaptainOfTheCruiseBoatThatSailsTheDanubeInTheSummer. I wonder what that looked like on his name tag? :zany:


Ad Honorem
Jun 2013
It was a German habit in abbreviating terms ... there is a precedent: "Sozialist" had abbreviated in "Sozi".
What I meant. But yeah, abbreviation in Germanic languages (including English) are one of the many wonders of language in general.