North Italy and South Italy

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May 2014
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Although economically and culturally southern Italy would be a better fit for soviets and northern Italy with the capitalist Western Europe
The Soviets can't get to southern Italy, though. I doubt that their navy can actually compete with the British and US navies. Also, technically speaking, the original Marxist view was that industrialized countries are the ones who are the most ripe for Communism.
 

AlpinLuke

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Oct 2011
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Italy, Lago Maggiore
In Italy Communists and Socialists have been historically a majority in the North and in the North-Center. From Rome to South Christian Democrats have been dominating. And keep in mind that in Turin [North West Italy, not far from here] a very important boulevard is ... "Soviet Union Boulevard" [still today!].
 
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In Italy Communists and Socialists have been historically a majority in the North and in the North-Center. From Rome to South Christian Democrats have been dominating. And keep in mind that in Turin [North West Italy, not far from here] a very important boulevard is ... "Soviet Union Boulevard" [still today!].
Northern Italy is also where republicans dominated in the 1946 Italian referendum:




Bless the Italians for creating a republic--and also for preventing the Italian monarchy's succession rules from being changed after 1946, which should eventually give the Savoy-Aosta branch the right to claim the defunct Italian throne since the main Savoyard line has a lack of male heirs.
 

AlpinLuke

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Oct 2011
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Northern Italy is also where republicans dominated in the 1946 Italian referendum:




Bless the Italians for creating a republic--and also for preventing the Italian monarchy's succession rules from being changed after 1946, which should eventually give the Savoy-Aosta branch the right to claim the defunct Italian throne since the main Savoyard line has a lack of male heirs.
Also this man blesses the Italians ... when our Constitution prohibited to male descendants of the Savoy House to enter Italy he was in Switzerland and he was already a great star on Italian TVs ... after that the prohibition had deleted he has become a idol ...

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Theoretically he could be our king [but there is a dispute with the Dukes of Aosta].
 
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Also this man blesses the Italians ... when our Constitution prohibited to male descendants of the Savoy House to enter Italy he was in Switzerland and he was already a great star on Italian TVs ... after that the prohibition had deleted he has become a idol ...

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Theoretically he could be our king [but there is a dispute with the Dukes of Aosta].
Yes, Emanuele Filiberto. Technically speaking, though, he doesn't have any sons, so once he will die, the two Italian royal claims should be reunited in the form of the Savoy-Aosta branch. That said, though, theoretically speaking, he could designate one of his daughters as his successor, but I'm extremely wary about accepting such a move since I don't think that deposed royalty should have the power to unilaterally alter the succession rules for the relevant defunct throne. Rather, I think that these succession rules should only be altered after a monarchical restoration--if one will ever actually occur, that is. Else, a royal could alter these rules however he (or she) will please--for instance, by designating his or her illegitimate child as his or her successor.
 

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"The heirs to his claim, in order of succession, are numbered below:

In the event that Emanuele Filiberto will die without any legitimate male heirs, his claim to the Italian throne will pass on to the Savoy-Aosta line--thus uniting these two claims."

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For the record, I myself am a republican rather than a monarchist. However, if the Italian monarchy were to be restored, I would prefer that this be done after Emanuele Filiberto's death in order to give the Savoy-Aosta line the opportunity to acquire the Italian throne. After all, they have already waited over a century for this. (Of course, if an Italian monarchical restoration will eventually occur, then the succession laws to the Italian throne should obviously be changed in order to make them more egalitarian. I simply want to delay this restoration long enough to make the Savoy-Aosta branch the heirs to the Italian throne.)
 

Ficino

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Apr 2012
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As north and south Italians are divided even now, I am not 100 % sure Italy would have reunified, if dived for a few decades. After all Romania and Moldavia did not reunify either.
What do you understand by "Moldavia"? The historical Principality of Moldavia self-dissolved by uniting with Wallachia and forming the Romanian state.
 

Futurist

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Northern Italy is also where republicans dominated in the 1946 Italian referendum:




Bless the Italians for creating a republic--and also for preventing the Italian monarchy's succession rules from being changed after 1946, which should eventually give the Savoy-Aosta branch the right to claim the defunct Italian throne since the main Savoyard line has a lack of male heirs.
@AlpinLuke: Do you know if the overwhelming republican vote in Trentino had anything to do with the fact that before 1918 they were ruled by the Hapsburgs rather than by the Savoyards?