Opposition: Herodotus' Histories and Black Egyptians Theory

John B

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Mar 2016
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I don't favour censorship.

If a member breaches forum rules I trust moderators to deal with it.

If I find a really can't stand what some one has posted, I reluctantly use the ignore function.
Just that this subject always goes to the toilet.
 
Mar 2017
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You have to know nothing about Kemet or you're simply ignoring the facts. Civilization on Earth (including Mesopotamia) spring out of this ancient Nile Valley culture that stretches back past the last ice age (Over 25,000 years according to the Emerald Tablets of Thoth).
I've been following this discussion: very interesting. However, when you throw in a reference like this, it puts into question everything else you've written.

There is exactly ONE "Emerald Tablet" and it wasn't preserved on stone. It's 14 lines (that's it) have survived around 2500 yrs ... a slight order of magnitude off. This would be the time of the Persian conquest, between the ancient Pharaohs and the Greek Ptolemies. No where near the Ice Age.
Have you read it? I like Isaac Newton's translation: https://www.sacred-texts.com/alc/emerald.htm
I would describe it as a philosophic/religious poem .. with no facts about anything ... even if it's secret Hermetic code They'd have to be pretty clever to squeeze ancient secrets into a single Tweet.

Or do you mean the "13 Emerable Tablets of Thoth" that Doreal wrote about?
"Doreal has claimed to have been informed by a collection of paranormal beings on how to translate 13 emerald tablets that nobody has ever seen and that were unheard of, even in myth, prior to his claim to have translated them."
Debunking - Emerald Tablets of Thoth the Atlantean

It's my opinion, but I have more faith in Newton. He was an alchemist (besides inventing Calculus). He didn't find anything interesting in there.

I'm not making a claim about African whatevers. I'm just saying you can't use this source for anything ... it ruins your argument, whatever it might be.
 
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John B

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How did the Hemetica (which I regard a crankage) get is this thread? Now that is a downhill slide.
 
Aug 2018
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Herodotus speaks of Black Egyptians because it wasn't long after the Nubian conquest. Remember that Nubians conquered and ruled Egypt for about one century, so that even when the Nubian dynasty was deposed by the Assyrians, they still left a ruling Nubian class, so it wouldn't be surprising that pharaohs like Necho or Psamtik had dark skin. There's also the fact that Nubians and Egyptians had indeed mingled together for centuries even before the Nubian conquest of Egypt. Nubians had already come close to conquering Egypt once, and were afterwards conquered themselves, at least in part, so there had been a constant influx of Nubians into Egypt especially during the second millennium BCE which explains why Greeks, and the Hebrews as well as the Bible shows, would conflate Egyptians with Nubians, who were also conflated with Ethiopians, and due to their dark skin, the Greeks conflated them with Indians too. Even today, as much as 10% of Egypt's population is Black. See the Bejas, Nubians and other such groups. Prominent leaders of Egypt in the last two centuries or so have also been Black, see Muhammad Ali, Anwar Sadat and Mohamed Morsi.
 
Aug 2018
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I love this thread: it includes a pages-long debate between the local White supremacist fascist and a reactionary Afrocentric. Now, I think Afrocentrism is racist (but not against Whites, but against Blacks and non-Whites even if there is a veneer of Black chauvinism), but at least Afrocentric nonsense attempts to create a counterhegemonic narrative to Europeist history, even if it ends up being Europeist in the end (because it still believes that history is Hegelian, that is, that history only occurs in Europe, the Mediterranean and the Near East).
 
Aug 2018
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Honestly, there are people, including actual historians like Lucio Russo, who believe the Greeks were only a few centuries from the space age and the internet revolution. Anti-Christian and anti-Muslim atheists loved to propagate this idea back in the height of the New Atheist rave. Heck, the YouTube atheist Thunderfoot said that had it not been for Christianity destroying Greco-Roman antiquity, Columbus would have been on the moon instead of America; not as extreme but still laughably bad. Lucio Russo meanwhile believes that Da Vinci's Italy was literally less technologically advanced than Hellenistic Egypt. We really need a Photoshop picture of the Parthenon with spaceship propellers just like the one with the pyramids of Giza that internet racists use to mock Afrocentrists.