Planned rations of food in North Korea - beyond horrible

Mar 2019
922
Kansas
#61
[QUOTE="arkteia, post: 3118008, member: 18770"
Stop being socialistic? He has no other idea how to run his economy.
/QUOTE]

He knows exactly how to run his economy to secure and maintain his power base. He has to keep the other 5 elite families happy and then the army. The North Korean elite have no care or interest about the population. The entire country is their private fiefdom
 
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Jul 2016
9,075
USA
#62
If one country is doing something to force another country to do something it's called aggression. It's called a violation of another country's sovereignty. All you are talking here about is a regime change. It's like school bulling. I don't like his face I'll punch him.
Actions have consequences. You want to cry that poor North Korea is being bullied by the meanie USA, go for it. You won't be the only one. But here is the problem. When you start making wild and ridiculous claims nobody will take your legitimate ones serious anymore, like the Boy Who Cried Wolf. You start defending the insane Kim family as the innocent victims and everyone should rightly ignore or laugh at you.
 
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Naomasa298

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Apr 2010
33,145
T'Republic of Yorkshire
#63
I'm not entirely sure why NK is on the US' radar at all. The war is long over, and South Korea and Japan ought to be able to fend off any NK military incursion.

Obviously, there's now the issue of nuclear weapons on the table, but Kim would probably ignore the US if they ignored him. Perhaps East Asians should solve their own problems instead of expecting the US to do it for them.
 
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Maribat

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Mar 2012
5,040
#64
Actions have consequences. You want to cry that poor North Korea is being bullied by the meanie USA, go for it. You won't be the only one. But here is the problem. When you start making wild and ridiculous claims nobody will take your legitimate ones serious anymore, like the Boy Who Cried Wolf. You start defending the insane Kim family as the innocent victims and everyone should rightly ignore or laugh at you.
Actually what actions are you talking about. The consequances are apparently the sanctions against the NK.
 
Jan 2019
43
Eastern Europe
#65
I'm not entirely sure why NK is on the US' radar at all. The war is long over, and South Korea and Japan ought to be able to fend off any NK military incursion.

Obviously, there's now the issue of nuclear weapons on the table, but Kim would probably ignore the US if they ignored him. Perhaps East Asians should solve their own problems instead of expecting the US to do it for them.
I think Trump is trying to bring Kim to western area of influence, to tear it apart from China.

In all honestly, the west cannot do anything to NK at all - can't attack it with the military due to the hostage, can't sanction it to the end of the world. Being concerned about human rights put you in shackles against regimes that don't share the same sentiments.
 
Mar 2019
922
Kansas
#66
I'm not entirely sure why NK is on the US' radar at all. The war is long over, and South Korea and Japan ought to be able to fend off any NK military incursion.

Obviously, there's now the issue of nuclear weapons on the table, but Kim would probably ignore the US if they ignored him. Perhaps East Asians should solve their own problems instead of expecting the US to do it for them.
Well the US insisted Japans new constitution forbade any form of standing force beyond civil defense after WW2 - In doing that the US had to make assurances about Japans defense. Conversely in Korea the US chose to get involved post WW2 to stop the spread of communism.

While self determination is always a worthy goal, the US has to bare some responsibility for some of the problems plaguing East Asia.
 

Naomasa298

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Apr 2010
33,145
T'Republic of Yorkshire
#67
Well the US insisted Japans new constitution forbade any form of standing force beyond civil defense after WW2 - In doing that the US had to make assurances about Japans defense. Conversely in Korea the US chose to get involved post WW2 to stop the spread of communism.
Japan's forces are hardly a civil defence force anymore.
 
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Jul 2016
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USA
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Actually what actions are you talking about. The consequances are apparently the sanctions against the NK.
The anyone that led to the sanctions and embargoes being created. While you'd gleefully ignore the many crimes of the Kim regime just to get in a snide comment at the evil and bullying USA, most everyone else isn't biased enough to actually think North Korea's God Emperor dictator is the victim in this scenario.

But you keep crying wolf, Peter. I'm sure eventually someone will believe you.
 

Maribat

Ad Honorem
Mar 2012
5,040
#69
The anyone that led to the sanctions and embargoes being created. While you'd gleefully ignore the many crimes of the Kim regime just to get in a snide comment at the evil and bullying USA, most everyone else isn't biased enough to actually think North Korea's God Emperor dictator is the victim in this scenario.

But you keep crying wolf, Peter. I'm sure eventually someone will believe you.

Can you just please enumerate the Kim crimes that led to the sanctions without your wolf comments?
 

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