Pre-1990 Israel: is it okay to say that it was the most liberating and humane nation-state in the Middle East?

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I think you guys are familiar with the assertive statement that 'Israel is the most democratic state in the Middle East'. However, to make this thread a historical discussion, I am talking about the modern state of Israel pre-1990. Furthermore, 'most democratic' can seem very subjective so I switched the discussion to 'most liberating and humane'.
Yes, the descriptor of 'most liberating and humane' is still rather subjective, but it is also more specific and lends itself for accountable criticism with the questions below.

FOR INSTANCES:
Despite the existence of extremist Jews (conservatives), was not Israel the most progressive in terms of the human rights of women, homosexuals, and other minorities?
Did not Israel use its military in mostly defensive roles?
Did not the Israelis commit the most humanistic rescue operations to terroristic acts that terrorized all of the innocent tourists back in the day?

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MG1962a

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Mar 2019
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FOR INSTANCES:
Despite the existence of extremist Jews (conservatives), was not Israel the most progressive in terms of the human rights of women, homosexuals, and other minorities?
Did not Israel use its military in mostly defensive roles?
Did not the Israelites commit the most humanistic rescue operations to terroristic acts that terrorized all of the innocent tourists back in the day?
Might depend who you are. Their treatment of the local Palestinian population (prior to 1990) has been less than stellar
 
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Futurist

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Might depend who you are. Their treatment of the local Palestinian population (prior to 1990) has been less than stellar
Yep.

Israel treated its own citizens pretty well (though Arab parties were consistently excluded from Israeli governing coalitions--a big black mark on Israel's record!), but the Israeli occupation doesn't appear to have done much for Palestinian Arabs. I mean, the West Bank and Gaza Strip don't appear to be any better off than Jordan is.
 

pugsville

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Oct 2010
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Despite the existence of extremist Jews (conservatives), was not Israel the most progressive in terms of the human rights of women, homosexuals, and other minorities?
A Nation were you got stoned for driving a car on the Sabbath.
Women get forced to ride at teh back of the bus.
Stores get boycotted in the women serving the store are not dressed modestly.

A Nation were there is no civil marriage and a women can not get a marriage unless her husband grants it. No matter what.

Did not Israel use its military in mostly defensive roles?
Isarel consistently used it military to make cross border raids targeting civilians.
Israel repeatedly invaded neighboring countries,


Did not the Israelis commit the most humanistic rescue operations to terroristic acts that terrorized all of the innocent tourists back in the day?
Well Israel ddi shoot down an air liner deliberately.
Well Israel organised a terrorist ring to bomb western targets in Egypt,
Israel did line up and shot men , women and chuldren for breaking a curfew that they could never have heard about.


Israel might well be the most liberating , humane, democatic state in the middle east. But it''s not saying very much.[