pre historic learned civilization, second urbanisation [no Aryan theory plz]

[Aupmanyav]

Then I guess we should stop bashing desi pseudo-scientists because Vedic people surely had 'vimanas' and 'missiles'. That's why we don't find their trails in any archeological sites. They were hovering over land of Bharata untill Sudas fired his guided missiles(that he acquired after performing 1000 years tapa from Indra) and evaporated all of Harappans and other Gangetic people.

That is not correct. There presence is found in all oasis and river valley in Central Asia. Oxus, Juxartes, Murghab, Herat, etc. Aryans other than Gods did not have vimanas and missiles. They came later with Puranas.

 

[Aupmanyav]

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[Aupmanyav]

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[Kamayani]

That is not correct. There presence is found in all oasis and river valley in Central Asia. Oxus, Juxartes, Murghab, Herat, etc. Aryans other than Gods did not have vimanas and missiles. They came later with Puranas.

But Purana were written in Satyuga when only rishis existed.
Jokes aside but why do we don't have their trails in India.
And what to do with all of horse remains and paintings that we have found in pre-supposed Aryan era.

 

[Aupmanyav]

"But Purana were written in Satyuga when only rishis existed." Good joke but not true. We recently had Ramana Maharshi. The day when there are no rishis in India, the sky would fall.
This is not the Aryan threa. Look for my new thread. New thread on Aryans in Central Asia

 

[Ashoka maurya]

http://www.asihyderabadcircle.com/storage/files/S8GX2TJQv916vWkHjMBGfEpzCcm1ajg3P431KjkH.pdf

the NBPW dating for magadh is 1200 BC, and since NBPW is taken as the sign of urbanisation, magadh began to urbanize in the scond millennium

Northern Black Polished Ware - Wikipedia

The Northern Black Polished Ware culture (abbreviated NBPW or NBP) is an urban Iron Age Indian culture of the Indian Subcontinent, lasting c. 700–200 BCE, succeeding the Painted Grey Ware culture and Black and red ware culture. It developed beginning around 700 BC, in the late Vedic period, and peaked from c. 500–300 BC, coinciding with the emergence of 16 great states or mahajanapadas in Northern India, and the subsequent rise of the Mauryan Empire.

also check out the stupa dating which again confirms that buddha may have died in 550 or 540 BC as mentioned and certainly not 400 BC as proposed by some western revisionists.

As such the whole of India was populated by some people at least from 2000 BCE (just a sample date). So both Patiliputra and Kausambi must have had some civilization even during 3rd & 2nd millenium BC. But was it urban?

PGW & NBPW sequence shows that urbanization move from west to east suggesting Kausambi could have been first among them. However, excavations may change the picture.

regards

 

[Ashoka maurya]

ayodhiya also reveals early date for NBPW which is 1003 BC along with Nalanda which is 1200 BC

The Chronology of Northern Black Polished Ware : Recent Perspectives

 

[Kamayani]

ayodhiya also reveals early date for NBPW which is 1003 BC along with Nalanda which is 1200 BC

The Chronology of Northern Black Polished Ware : Recent Perspectives

I'm sure all of north Indian cities are much more older than common consensus. But we have to demolish present cities to find older structures !

 

[Rajeev]

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http://www.asihyderabadcircle.com/storage/files/S8GX2TJQv916vWkHjMBGfEpzCcm1ajg3P431KjkH.pdf

the NBPW dating for magadh is 1200 BC, and since NBPW is taken as the sign of urbanisation, magadh began to urbanize in the scond millennium

Northern Black Polished Ware - Wikipedia



also check out the stupa dating which again confirms that buddha may have died in 550 or 540 BC as mentioned and certainly not 400 BC as proposed by some western revisionists.



regards

Puranic Genealogies date King Jarasandh of Magadh from the time of Mahabharata Battle. The date of this battle is still controversial, but conservative estimates put it from 1400-800 BCE.

 

[Ashoka maurya]

Puranic Genealogies date King Jarasandh of Magadh from the time of Mahabharata Battle. The date of this battle is still controversial, but conservative estimates put it from 1400-800 BCE.

anything which cannot be proven is a myth or legend, but i think that NBPW presence is an important indication of urbanisation in magadh, they need to find urban centres in magadh contemporary to this NBPW dating to prove this notion.

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