Ptolemy vs Marcus Crassus: a contrast

May 2015
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Marcus Crassus vs Alexander's general who founded the Ptolemaic dynasty. How do they compare politically, militarily, etc? This is a matchup that looked interesting.
 

macon

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Aug 2015
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Ptolemy was only survivor of diadochi and a founder of empire, Crassus was a businessman and not a very bright military mind. Although he did well against slaves, he finished in a complete disaster against Parthians.
 
Feb 2017
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I would think that Ptolemy Soter wins in most regards. Politically, he managed to build up his own kingdom, almost from the ground up. Militarily, he was one of Alexander's best generals, fought his way with him through Asia. And then he made himself king, and managed to keep his kingdom despite quite a bit of opposition.
 

caldrail

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Feb 2012
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Ptolemy was only survivor of diadochi and a founder of empire, Crassus was a businessman and not a very bright military mind. Although he did well against slaves, he finished in a complete disaster against Parthians.
His dealings with the Egyptians proved worse still. They killed him and presented his head to Julius Caesar.
 

aggienation

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Jul 2016
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Ptolemy was only survivor of diadochi and a founder of empire, Crassus was a businessman and not a very bright military mind. Although he did well against slaves, he finished in a complete disaster against Parthians.
Crassus had ample military service with Sulla, he was one of his chief legates and was largely responsible for the victory at the Colline Gate. Later he demonstrated further generaling abilities putting down the Spartacus slave revolt.

He did badly botch the Parthian campaign though. My guess is he thought they'd be pushovers like those previous wars where Lucullus and Pompey smashed Eastern cavalry-centric armies with ease.
 
Jul 2013
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Scotland
Ptolemy wasn't the only survivor Cassandra also died of natural causes. Just didn't leave a dynasty after his death as his sons fought for the crown and were swallowed up by Lysimachus and Pyrrhus
 
May 2015
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One thing that is interesting about Ptolemy is that he didn't overextend himself militarily. Some of the other successors like Antigonus and Demetrius created many enemies because of their expansionist aims.

His kingdom also lasted longer than the other major successor states although Ptolemy can't take credit for that.